Average Speed XVII Game Thread

[DustinG]

Fnord,

if you refuse to address my arguments for why Fmx is a villager then i have no choice to conclude you're evil.

[fnord_too]

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dustin, I am pretty sure that order loses.

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im willing to entertain you

come up with 4 villagers- including yourself of course

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This post scares me. A lot.

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you find it wolfy or the thought of finding 4 villagers terrifies you?

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I find it scary that if four people all agree they are mutually clear they roll, because I think it is easier for a wolf to slip in to the clique than to clear 4 people.

Again, clearing villagers just isn't working here. I have thoughts on why for the postmortem, but they don't contribute anything to the task at hand.

[fnord_too]

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Fnord,

if you refuse to address my arguments for why Fmx is a villager then i have no choice to conclude you're evil.

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Restate them. If they are based on interactions with GT or Luckay, I almost certainly not going to give him a clean bill of health. Conclude I am evil all you want, you are wrong but I would have to be stupid to think it was obvious.

[DustinG]

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Fnord,

if you refuse to address my arguments for why Fmx is a villager then i have no choice to conclude you're evil.

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Restate them. If they are based on interactions with GT or Luckay, I almost certainly not going to give him a clean bill of health. Conclude I am evil all you want, you are wrong but I would have to be stupid to think it was obvious.

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not just GT and Luckay, but also Kbar, who started pushing Fmx after Fmx had made one post

GT1T votes him when hes a competing wagon to Kbar, and then Luckay shows up and looks like crap trying to derail Kbar when Fmx was still an easy option.

None of that fits with Fmx being evil.

[DustinG]

Fish,

since you think its Fmx/Fnord, I think you're better off voting Fnord today. Thoughts?

[fnord_too]

If I get time I will reread that stuff, but a wolf pushing for someone after one post is far from an endorsement of that someone's villagerness.

Same with the GT thing. Judging from your post, kbar and gt were dueling wagons, and GT goes and pushes for fmx? How does that tell you anything? I need to go back and look at those wagons, because I am not quite sure I understand what you are describing. are these wagons' that scott or someone already summarized in a single post?

[DustinG]

GT1T was never a D1 wagon.

But fmx and Kbar were

[DustinG]

also, your argument for why we should lynch Fmx is because no self respecting wolves would have kept him alive, and that because he is afk he needs to die?

[fnord_too]

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If I get time I will reread that stuff, but a wolf pushing for someone after one post is far from an endorsement of that someone's villagerness.



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To spell this out: when you know someone is a wolf, it is very easy to see wolf tells in them and jump on them, or to just jump on them without giving a good reason. Scott uses this technique, pointing out a fellow wolf who makes a bad post early, fairly regularly iirc. In fact, one of my now gone villager tells on scott is he doesn't have some big insight into why someone is a wolf. I think I mentioned this in pirates, though, so I can't really use it anymore.

[fmxda]

Hi, my friends were in town from Sat - Mon and I've been out on the town most of the day.

I'm going to read the days I missed before I vote or defend myself.