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08-15-2007, 08:56 AM
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[ QUOTE ] How does one have a lower OBP than BA? Sac flies? [/ QUOTE ] yeah and regular sacrifices, and HBP. [/ QUOTE ] Sac bunts don't count against OBP, and HBP make it harder to have BA > OBP. 
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#262
08-15-2007, 09:04 AM
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How does one have a lower OBP than BA? Sac flies? [/ QUOTE ] Right. Sac flies count against OBP but not BA. So if (BB+HBP)/(BB+HBP+SF)<BA, OBP will also be < BA. In other words, you need a lot of sac flies and not a lot of walks.
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#263
08-15-2007, 09:10 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] How does one have a lower OBP than BA? Sac flies? [/ QUOTE ] yeah and regular sacrifices, and HBP. [/ QUOTE ] Sac bunts don't count against OBP, and HBP make it harder to have BA > OBP. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I just woke up and was thinking backwards. sac flies only then.
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#264
08-15-2007, 09:19 AM
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Yeah, the stat doesn't include non-American blacks like Pedro, Sosa, and Tejada. So the 10% figure refers only to guys like C.C. Sabathia and Willie Harris.
The decline probably has most to do with the rise of basketball in the inner cities and the ability to get good contracts quickly.
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#265
08-15-2007, 09:27 AM
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Barry Bonds career .EQA - over 22 seasons - is higher than David Ortiz's best season ever. by a lot.
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#266
08-15-2007, 10:05 AM
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[ QUOTE ] Ivan Rodriguez has 5 walks this year. [/ QUOTE ] Sort of related: Jose Molina's batting average is higher than his OBP in 24 AB with the Yankees. Look soon, it probably (hopefully) won't last long. [/ QUOTE ] how is that possible? (to have a obp lower then avg)
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#267
08-15-2007, 10:10 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Ivan Rodriguez has 5 walks this year. [/ QUOTE ] Sort of related: Jose Molina's batting average is higher than his OBP in 24 AB with the Yankees. Look soon, it probably (hopefully) won't last long. [/ QUOTE ] how is that possible? (to have a obp lower then avg) [/ QUOTE ] More sacrifices than walks, as sacs count as ABs in OBP but not avg.
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#269
08-15-2007, 10:22 AM
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in 2000, Pedro Martinez - while pitching 1/2 his games in Fenway Park - had an ERA of 1.74. runner up in ERA standings that year was Roger Clemens, with a 3.70. his Adjusted ERA+ (ERA adjusted for the ballpark and the league average) was the highest of any pitcher since 1880. his WHIP of .7373 that year - even unadjusted for any league or park effects - was the lowest of all time, astounding for a pitcher in the AL in a high scoring park in an era of high run scoring. (lots of people know he was great, but some are still surprised at how historically great he was, and I need to mention it in all of these threads [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]) [/ QUOTE ] Slightly off topic, but fun: Another fun Pedro anecdote: he pitched 9 perfect innings (in 1995 while an Expo), but the game was 0-0 at the end of 9 innings. He still won in 10 innings, but gave up a hit in the 10th so it was not a perfect game. On the subject of perfect games: Babe Ruth started a game and walked the first batter on 4 pitches. He got mad at the ump, tried to punch him, and was carried off by the police. He was relieved by Ernie Shore. The runner was immediately caught stealing and Ernie retired the next 26 in a row. Also not a perfect game. But neither of these are as incredible as this one: In 1959 Harvey Haddix of the Pirates had pitched 12 perfect innings(! which is a record, of course) An error in the 13th ruined his perfect game, and the runner came around to score following a sacrifice, an IBB to Hank Aaron, then a home run by Joe Adcock, which turned into a double because he passed Hank Aaron on the basepaths (lol, wtf?). The Pirates had 9 hits and 12 perfect innings, but lost the game. There have been 9 perfect games ruined during the last at-bat. Yankees fans will remember the last one, when Carl Everett ruined Mussina's bid with a 2 strike single in 2001. Another one was ruined because the pitcher (Hooks Wiltse) hit the 27th batter.
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#270
08-15-2007, 10:32 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Philadelphia is going on 94 consecutive sports seasons without a championship. Cleveland is going on 118 consecutive sports seasons without a championship. [/ QUOTE ] Damn, 118 sports-seasons is really glaring considering they only have 3 of the 4 major sports (I'm assuming you are only counting "the big 4"). [/ QUOTE ] They've had an NHL team too. Interestingly, if you google: "cleveland barons history", the first thing you get is "Did you mean: cleveland browns history" [/ QUOTE ] I tried to find the youtube video in the WNBA all star game where the person horribly missed a dunk. I typed in "WNBA" and it says "Are you sure you didn't mean NBA"
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