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Old 03-12-2007, 01:34 PM
naivety\\\\\\\'s naivety\\\\\\\'s is offline
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some of you are completely misusing the word "ethics" ........ethics is not necessarily what is "legal" or not, or whatever the "rules" allow

if a country had laws that murder was perfectly legal, that does not make it ethical

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You're comparing the ethicacy of short stacking a poker game to murdering someone? You, sir, are a [censored] moron.

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its just a simple example of how things following the "rules" arent necessarily ethical. the rules dont dictate whats ethical or not.

glad you missed the point though, and have time instead to make up words like "ethicacy"

the use of murder was just to highlight how ridiculous the logic of "if it follows the rules, it must be ethical" argument was

obviously you didnt understand that and decided to just point out "OMG MURDER IS NOT LIKE SHORTSTACKING". duh. its not. that wasnt the point.
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Old 03-12-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: Stars 25-50 Shortstackers

BKholdem,
Your an idiot and a douche you have said so many incorrect things that it's not even worth pointing them all out.

IMO there is nothing wrong with buying in for the min but ratholing is a really unethical and it is just exploiting a leak in the software.

Finally I find it funny that people sent fatalerror PM's asking how to shortstack it's not like it's difficult anyone who's decent at MTTs can figure it out pretty easily.
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Old 03-12-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: Stars 25-50 Shortstackers

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BKholdem,
Your an idiot and a douche you have said so many incorrect things that it's not even worth pointing them all out.

IMO there is nothing wrong with buying in for the min but ratholing is a really unethical and it is just exploiting a leak in the software.

Finally I find it funny that people sent fatalerror PM's asking how to shortstack it's not like it's difficult anyone who's decent at MTTs can figure it out pretty easily.

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yup. I gave it a try recently, just to experiment. It was very easy, and a top MTT player would be a lot better at it than any of the current short stacks in the game.

However, at this point the games have dried up so much, have so many short stacks, and are playing so tight, that I doubt its very profitable for even a very skilled player to shortstack.

-Jeff
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Old 03-12-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: Stars 25-50 Shortstackers

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BKholdem,
Your an idiot and a douche you have said so many incorrect things that it's not even worth pointing them all out.

IMO there is nothing wrong with buying in for the min but ratholing is a really unethical and it is just exploiting a leak in the software.

Finally I find it funny that people sent fatalerror PM's asking how to shortstack it's not like it's difficult anyone who's decent at MTTs can figure it out pretty easily.

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yup. I gave it a try recently, just to experiment. It was very easy, and a top MTT player would be a lot better at it than any of the current short stacks in the game.

However, at this point the games have dried up so much, have so many short stacks, and are playing so tight, that I doubt its very profitable for even a very skilled player to shortstack.

-Jeff

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Time to take that [censored] to 50/100+, dude.
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Old 03-12-2007, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: Stars 25-50 Shortstackers

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BKholdem,
Your an idiot and a douche you have said so many incorrect things that it's not even worth pointing them all out.

IMO there is nothing wrong with buying in for the min but ratholing is a really unethical and it is just exploiting a leak in the software.

Finally I find it funny that people sent fatalerror PM's asking how to shortstack it's not like it's difficult anyone who's decent at MTTs can figure it out pretty easily.

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yup. I gave it a try recently, just to experiment. It was very easy, and a top MTT player would be a lot better at it than any of the current short stacks in the game.

However, at this point the games have dried up so much, have so many short stacks, and are playing so tight, that I doubt its very profitable for even a very skilled player to shortstack.

-Jeff

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Time to take that [censored] to 50/100+, dude.

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I don't think short stacking a non full ring game is viable, unless its playing really really loose?
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Old 03-12-2007, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: Stars 25-50 Shortstackers

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Time to take that [censored] to 50/100+, dude.

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I don't think short stacking a non full ring game is viable, unless its playing really really loose?

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How much do you think you would have made short stacking PO v Traheho the other day? Or Durr v Luigi? Or any game at least 1/2+? Those game are insane... Just sit behind JMan! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 03-12-2007, 03:51 PM
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shortstacking is unethical.

If you took a sample of normal players vs. shortstackers I guarantee you would find that normal players have a higher level of ethics and integrity than shortstackers.
As a shortstacker you will never ever garner any respect or considered being a legitimate or good poker player.

You pretty much sending the message that you suck and you don't care that other people think you suck. This personality trait is not uncommon with prostitutes, drug dealers, used car salesman, etc.

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Old 03-12-2007, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: Stars 25-50 Shortstackers

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ratholing is unethical.

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Correct.

Ratholing is a problem because of the relatively short sit out time required to reload with a min buy in.

The time limit to return to a table with less money should be increased to AT LEAST 2 hrs, the live casino standard.

Six to 24 hrs seems most appropriate for online play.
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Old 03-12-2007, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: Stars 25-50 Shortstackers

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shortstacking is unethical.

If you took a sample of normal players vs. shortstackers I guarantee you would find that normal players have a higher level of ethics and integrity than shortstackers.
As a shortstacker you will never ever garner any respect or considered being a legitimate or good poker player.

You pretty much sending the message that you suck and you don't care that other people think you suck. This personality trait is not uncommon with prostitutes, drug dealers, used car salesman, etc.

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LOL yeah! Especially that Barry Greenstein guy!

Like geez, when I think about guys that will never ever garner any respect or be considered good poker players, I think BARRY GREENSTEIN!

C'mon people, shortstacking isn't unethical. Going south and ratholing are unethical.
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Old 03-12-2007, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: Stars 25-50 Shortstackers

i got my application in to shortstack 100/200
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