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#243
04-10-2006, 02:26 AM
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Re: how can this NOT be collusion?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] LINKY Barron [/ QUOTE ] OMG LMAO [/ QUOTE ] oh wow. are all those guys actually awesome at poker and better than all of us peons on 2p2? [/ QUOTE ] I gave that site a quick look around too after I read the original thread. Maybe I missed it, but it doesn't look like there's any strategy content on there. Just seems to be a site for neverwin's fanboys to troll. 
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#245
04-18-2006, 11:08 AM
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Re: how can this NOT be collusion?
I recieved this email 2 weeks ago and then nothing.
Tony, Thank you for letting us know about this situation. We will review the session in question and, if we find evidence of collusion, we will deal with these players appropriately. Remember that our major concern is to make sure that our customers play in a fair and secure place. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further questions. Best Regards, Vinnie Cardroom Management
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#248
06-02-2006, 05:50 PM
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Re: My experience with these two
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The collluders are taking a pretty big risk to put in 5 or more big bets between them if it turns out that you have an overpair bacause, of course, you are not folding that hand no matter what they do. [/ QUOTE ] But they did get him to fold an overpair. Or am I misunderstanding the point? And as far as the showdown goes, that calldown is virtually necessary, given the way hogbird played the hand. If he check-folded the river, collusion would be a near-certainty (assuming you could find out he had AQ). One other thing I haven't seen mentioned in this thread (and I missed this epic the first time around) are the much more common and elusive methods of collusion. Someone speculated that these guys may only collude in one of every 50 hands to avoid detection. I think it's much more likely they're colluding every hand. The fact is most expert collusion partners would almost never make this kind of blatantly suspicious play. They work together by simply fold strong hands in multiway pots when their partner has a better made hand or better similar draw, thereby cutting the victim's action in half when he has a winner. (Of course, when they do wind up headsup, they might hardplay more than usual to cover up) This is much easier to execute, extremely hard to spot without hole card knowledge and, combined with decent regular play, very profitable over the long haul. THIS is the kind of collusion UB should be looking for, as well as the more rare jamjobs like the hands already posted.
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