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Old 07-19-2006, 02:52 AM
wrschultz wrschultz is offline
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Default Re: Hi, WSEX GM here, looking forward to being part of this board.

I would like to re-affirm that the best thing in the interests of the company is to allow people to play up to 4 tables, (This should be 4 ring games, and up to 10 tournaments really.

Also, allow users to deposit/withdraw funds via Firepay and through some type of E-Check service.

Finally, do not allow hand histories to be saved to the hard drive, or if you must, find a way to erase the usernames in the hand histories. If people are allowed to use HUDs, the site will never be profittable.
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Old 07-19-2006, 03:30 AM
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Default Re: Hi, WSEX GM here, looking forward to being part of this board.

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If people are allowed to use HUDs, the site will never be profittable.

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Oh yeah because Party and Stars games (with full rake) are unbeatable because of all those Satan-worshipping HUD semi-bots...[/sarcasm]

The fact is all the largest sites have HH's saved to hard drive. If WSEX wants to grow to their size, it is simply a must. Same goes for adding 6-max.
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Old 07-19-2006, 10:32 AM
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All they need to do is add 6-max and they're good to go.. I dont get what the hold up is. WSEX GM if your reading this.. adding 6-max will greatly increase numbers more than anything else right now! It is the reason im not playing at WSEX and if added I would start playing there..

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why cant you play 5 max? That crap about games breaking too often is complete BS in reality. If a 5 max game breaks on WPX its because there isnt a huge supply of players waiting to replace every open spot like there are on the bigger sites. It has little to nothing to do with 5 max vs 6 max. Learn how to play real shorthanded poker.
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Old 07-19-2006, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: Hi, WSEX GM here, looking forward to being part of this board.

Matt is, as usual, correct. Making changes that make the game and the board attractive to the pros, and give the pros further advantages, is non productive. Ultimately that makes the games a rockfest.

What really attracts the pros is fish. And the way you get fish is TV advertizing on the important (WSOP, WPT) poker programs.

Spend the money where it counts.

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Old 07-19-2006, 03:56 PM
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why cant you play 5 max? That crap about games breaking too often is complete BS in reality. If a 5 max game breaks on WPX its because there isnt a huge supply of players waiting to replace every open spot like there are on the bigger sites. It has little to nothing to do with 5 max vs 6 max.

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I think you're wrong on this, M.

There's a huge population of players comfortable playing 5-6 handed poker. A lot are ok w/ 4 handed, at least for a while. But at 3-handed, a lot of people are uncomfortable and immediately sit out. Frequently the game will stall and break if it hits 3-handed. True for 6max, true for 5max. 5max will obviously hit 3-handed play far more frequently than 6max, so those games will stall and break more frequently.

I think WPEX would easily support several 10/20 6max tables while it struggles to keep one 5max going.

I'm not ashamed to say that I don't play the 10/20 5max at wpex very much, despite being a 'pro' with a lot of experience up to 20/40 6max. I recognize that there are some very tough players in that game who I do not want to play 3-handed unless there is a really weak player in there with us, which doesn't happen much.

If I get in there against a 2-3 hand specialist and another player similar to my skill level, I'll get my lunch eaten. The weaker players generally know they will get burned, too. You might rape them a couple times, then they'll retreat to a full table before long.

So, IMO, the lack of reliable games at 10/20 shorthand on WPEX is directly a result of the tables being 5max instead of 6max.

B.
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Old 07-19-2006, 04:13 PM
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why cant you play 5 max? That crap about games breaking too often is complete BS in reality. If a 5 max game breaks on WPX its because there isnt a huge supply of players waiting to replace every open spot like there are on the bigger sites. It has little to nothing to do with 5 max vs 6 max.

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I think you're wrong on this, M.

There's a huge population of players comfortable playing 5-6 handed poker. A lot are ok w/ 4 handed, at least for a while. But at 3-handed, a lot of people are uncomfortable and immediately sit out. Frequently the game will stall and break if it hits 3-handed. True for 6max, true for 5max. 5max will obviously hit 3-handed play far more frequently than 6max, so those games will stall and break more frequently.

I think WPEX would easily support several 10/20 6max tables while it struggles to keep one 5max going.

I'm not ashamed to say that I don't play the 10/20 5max at wpex very much, despite being a 'pro' with a lot of experience up to 20/40 6max. I recognize that there are some very tough players in that game who I do not want to play 3-handed unless there is a really weak player in there with us, which doesn't happen much.

If I get in there against a 2-3 hand specialist and another player similar to my skill level, I'll get my lunch eaten. The weaker players generally know they will get burned, too. You might rape them a couple times, then they'll retreat to a full table before long.

So, IMO, the lack of reliable games at 10/20 shorthand on WPEX is directly a result of the tables being 5max instead of 6max.

B.

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Well put.
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Old 07-19-2006, 04:18 PM
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6max good

Saving hand histories to hard drive bad, as this is detrimental to the casual players who keep the games fed.
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Old 07-19-2006, 06:07 PM
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Saving hand histories to hard drive bad, as this is detrimental to the casual players who keep the games fed.

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Prove it.
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Old 07-19-2006, 06:38 PM
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why cant you play 5 max? That crap about games breaking too often is complete BS in reality. If a 5 max game breaks on WPX its because there isnt a huge supply of players waiting to replace every open spot like there are on the bigger sites. It has little to nothing to do with 5 max vs 6 max.

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I think you're wrong on this, M.

There's a huge population of players comfortable playing 5-6 handed poker. A lot are ok w/ 4 handed, at least for a while. But at 3-handed, a lot of people are uncomfortable and immediately sit out. Frequently the game will stall and break if it hits 3-handed. True for 6max, true for 5max. 5max will obviously hit 3-handed play far more frequently than 6max, so those games will stall and break more frequently.

I think WPEX would easily support several 10/20 6max tables while it struggles to keep one 5max going.

I'm not ashamed to say that I don't play the 10/20 5max at wpex very much, despite being a 'pro' with a lot of experience up to 20/40 6max. I recognize that there are some very tough players in that game who I do not want to play 3-handed unless there is a really weak player in there with us, which doesn't happen much.

If I get in there against a 2-3 hand specialist and another player similar to my skill level, I'll get my lunch eaten. The weaker players generally know they will get burned, too. You might rape them a couple times, then they'll retreat to a full table before long.

So, IMO, the lack of reliable games at 10/20 shorthand on WPEX is directly a result of the tables being 5max instead of 6max.

B.

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IMO, 4 handed is pretty much perfect poker, which is why I like the current 5 max tables, just to put my statements into perspective.
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Old 07-19-2006, 07:00 PM
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FIREPAY--I'm over Neteller so this is my main payment option.

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