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View Poll Results: If you have changed your beliefs, has your profession had anything to do with it?
YES 2 8.00%
NO 18 72.00%
I HAVE NOT CHANGED MY BELIEFS 5 20.00%
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:22 PM
prohornblower prohornblower is offline
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I stiff fairly regularly but I think I expect too much out of people. Often times I think I get bad service because I don't "dress up" to the place in which I'm eating. I have messy facial hair and might be wearing a baseball hat so I look like a broke college student when I'm actually 5 years out of school. lol. I think they see me and go "Broke ass mofo..." and the service is commensurate.

Last time I stiffed was about a week ago my gf and I eat at this pretty good fish place. It's new and this is the 2nd time we've eaten there but it doesn't appear that their business has "taken off" yet. You'd expect really good service, right?

They advertise "Happy hour all day everyday" which is effing awesome. $1.50 margaritas and $1.00 domestic drafts. Freaking unheard of in these parts. So I sit down and order a domestic beer. (I forgot to SPECIFY draft). I sort of figured either it was a given that I want the $1.00 beer or that the waitress will verify. She doesn't and comes out with a long-neck. No problem. I didn't even notice it was long-neck, until the bill comes and I'm charged $3.00 for it. WTF. Come on.

So she comes out and I point at the bill and say "I should have specified I wanted the dollar draft happy hour beer..." "Oh, sorry...I'm sorry I brought the bottle..." then just sort of weasles away. Whatever.

So I took the $2.00 out of what would have been her $3.00 tip and tipped $1.00. She bought my longneck for me. I honestly felt bad about it, but come on, she's gotta ask if I want draft or bottle, right??? To just assume I want $3.00 bottle is just a retarded way to make more money for them.
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:39 PM
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when she assumes, she makes an.....you know the rest.
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:50 PM
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If all the tipping threads were combined the tubes would clog instantly.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:09 PM
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WRT bar tipping, it should be $1 per drink/beer/glass of wine/etc. You tip the same for the bartender twisting off a bottlecap as you do for the five-minutes-to-prepare flaming Dr. Pepper shot, or whatever. It all averages out in the end.

If someone leaves me $20 on an $18 three drink order, I thank them and move on, though, while internally thinking "ok, kinda cheap, whatever." It would have to be an exceptionally bad tipping situation for me to say anything, as less than stellar tips are part of the job. It's pretty unprofessional to make a stink about a dollar.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:16 PM
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WRT bar tipping, it should be $1 per drink/beer/glass of wine/etc. You tip the same for the bartender twisting off a bottlecap as you do for the five-minutes-to-prepare flaming Dr. Pepper shot, or whatever. It all averages out in the end.

If someone leaves me $20 on an $18 three drink order, I thank them and move on, though, while internally thinking "ok, kinda cheap, whatever."

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I disagree with both of your assertions here.

1) I think tipping based off of effort makes sense. Let's say it's a crowded bar, two deep, people waiting to order. Hell even if it's not that packed a bartender's attention is probably wanted elsewhere. To go to the trouble of preparing an elaborate drink or shots is more tip-worthy than twisting the top off of three Miller Lites and should be compensated accordingly.

2) In that vein, a $2 tip for a quick $18 order seems VERY reasonable to me. I'm compensating a bartender to the tune of $2 for <1 minute of work, hell probably <30 seconds even if you consider the time he took to come over and hear my order. Multiply this by around 20-30 transactions per hour (accounting for down time and other non-compensatory job duties, this is a conservative figure that's probably higher) and this guy is making a ton of money. To feel indignant about a $2 tip in that circumstance is pretty presumptuous. Particularly in the example you gave, where it's just super easy to hand over a $20 and be done with it.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:16 PM
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One thing I hate about myself is that I don't have to balls to not tip or to just under-tip when a server "kind of" sucks. I give 20% way too [censored] much for some of the service I get. I need to stop doing that.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:22 PM
It's Brandt It's Brandt is offline
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Lets say you're at a college bar and its dollar drinks and you are consistently getting one drink at time during the night. Still tip a dollar every time?

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You're getting your drinks for a [censored] dollar each. Are you saying sometimes you don't tip in this situation?
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:23 PM
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Lets say you're at a college bar and its dollar drinks and you are consistently getting one drink at time during the night. Still tip a dollar every time?

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You're getting your drinks for a [censored] dollar each. Are you saying sometimes you don't tip in this situation?

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If you tip a quarter that's 25%, which is pretty baller.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:24 PM
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I give 20% way too [censored] much for some of the service I get. I need to stop doing that.

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Yes, because you are ruining it for the rest of us. I sort of loate over-the-top tippers because then my 15-20% looks lame. Everyone should tip similarly regardless if your net worth is 1M+ or -$50,000

Rich people who over-tip just because it's a faux pas to walk around with their d*ck swinging in public are jers, imo.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:35 PM
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You're getting your drinks for a [censored] dollar each. Are you saying sometimes you don't tip in this situation?

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if you're going to a bar just because they have $1 drinks, you're not going to be paying $2/drink.
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