** Official July Chat Thread: The Black Swan **

[MyTurn2Raise]

that study would be bad....cannot ruin online game rep or my golden goose goes with it

OnGame and Pstars definitely do

[1p0kerboy]

Today is going about like usual.

found 85 headsup allin situations
won: 50 lost: 34 tied: 1
average potsize: 34.86$
average ev: 0.5943
money won: 1634.25$
money expected (based on allin equity): 1747.57$
money difference: -113.32$

Maybe when we get regulated sites some of this BS will get cleaned up.

[Steelerman]

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i've been trying to tell you this for a long time

this is typical

the pokersites are rigging allin confrontations

evenso, they are still +ev to play


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I mostly think you're joking but ya never know.

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i'm not joking
i've run the stats as best I can
everyone thinks it's a joke
oh well...makes me a tin foil crowd
whatever, the facts are the facts

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MT2R,

I think I've read you say before that you believe the cards come as expected but the all-in confrontations are rigged. Do you mean that the big premiums get matched up more than expected (AA vs KK, QQ), or do you mean the inferior hand winning more than it should in general?

[1p0kerboy]

I wonder if I start playing less if they will unrig me.

[D.L.M.]

someone play me heads up on full tilt supreme 20 100nl hu.

[1p0kerboy]

Now I'm -$138 for the day in SB.

I'm really considering moving all of my play to Full Tilt, Bodog, and/or Ultimate Bet.

If you consider some of the shady things online sites are doing to allow credit card transactions (by changing the charge code etc.) I certainly wouldn't put this past them.

[Steelerman]

Until proven otherwise I still always fall back on nobody possibly being stupid enough to rig the games. They make money hand over fist and it would instantly evaporate if any of it were true.

[tautomer]

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Hey tautomer, what program are you using for that?

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It's called flop-a-set-ometer. Someone posted it in the software forums a few months ago. I posted a link here and no one responded. My results haven't improved much since then lol.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post10497778

[1p0kerboy]

It's just strange that the extremely high volume players (and I mean those playing 150k-200k hands a month!) like MTTR and myself have some of the worst possible results in the all-in equity department, don't you think?

[tautomer]

Ooops, here's the link to the original software thread. Reading through it again there appears to be some bugs that may or may not have been fixed. It works for me, it may not if you have an enormous database.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post10381794