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#221
09-26-2007, 03:37 PM
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Re: The state of Notre Dame football.
JVAN from NDnation is deluded
the junior class Recruiting is on Weis' head expectations were for ND to win 7 or slightly more games this year---at least that is the line people were betting O/U started at 7.5 wins and it got hammered down to 7 wins 
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#222
09-26-2007, 03:43 PM
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Re: The state of Notre Dame football.
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JVAN from NDnation is deluded the junior class Recruiting is on Weis' head expectations were for ND to win 7 or slightly more games this year---at least that is the line people were betting O/U started at 7.5 wins and it got hammered down to 7 wins [/ QUOTE ] Citing NDNation for anything other than humor is a bad idea.
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#223
09-26-2007, 04:15 PM
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Re: The state of Notre Dame football.
Over/Under on when Notre Dame wins a bowl game?
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#226
09-26-2007, 04:40 PM
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Re: The state of Notre Dame football.
MyTurn2Raise, how much can a head coach reasonably be expected to recruit in the final 1-2 months before signing day? If you look at recruiting now, almost every team has at least 10 guys verbally committed, many with closer to 20 or more, and everyone who's any good at recruiting has been talking to recruits since their junior year. If he had left the Patriots, what is the likelihood that that recruiting class would have been substantially improved, given that at the time he was hired he was just another coordinator under the shadow of Bellichick and not some returning savior ala Nick Saban.
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#228
09-26-2007, 05:06 PM
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Re: The state of Notre Dame football.
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JVAN from NDnation is deluded the junior class Recruiting is on Weis' head expectations were for ND to win 7 or slightly more games this year---at least that is the line people were betting O/U started at 7.5 wins and it got hammered down to 7 wins [/ QUOTE ] LOL at you acting like that's an efficient market.
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#229
09-26-2007, 05:11 PM
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Re: The state of Notre Dame football.
It is pretty funny since I said u7.5 should be -300 to you on AIM
EDIT: it does speak to the expectation levels of some fans though
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#230
09-26-2007, 05:17 PM
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Re: The state of Notre Dame football.
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MyTurn2Raise, how much can a head coach reasonably be expected to recruit in the final 1-2 months before signing day? If you look at recruiting now, almost every team has at least 10 guys verbally committed, many with closer to 20 or more, and everyone who's any good at recruiting has been talking to recruits since their junior year. If he had left the Patriots, what is the likelihood that that recruiting class would have been substantially improved, given that at the time he was hired he was just another coordinator under the shadow of Bellichick and not some returning savior ala Nick Saban. [/ QUOTE ] see Butch Davis--he stole one of the top wideouts in the nation from ND with that much time (UNC was not a factor beforehand) and got a great DT from the DC area, perhaps the best DT among high school seniors. it could've been and would've been better--he is the head coach at NOTRE DAME...one or two personal visits would've made a world of difference. Looking at his last two classes, it seems he can pull in some guys. not top 10 or anything, but there could've been an impact player or two and more guys that could develop into being competitive players. I'm not saying he made the wrong decision in staying with the PATS full-time. It was a very difficult spot. I'm just saying he chose one way and it worked out for that franchise. However, it has hurt him in his new job. To pass the blame for that class solely onto Willingham is not right.
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