Absolute Poker's Official Response to "superuser" allegations

[GaryTheGoat]

Absolute's Superuser Decision: Incorrect/Evidence Public

PokerStars'wcoop2007 Decision: Correct/Evidence Private

Stars Conclusion (short answer = void is owned)

gg

[Pokeraddict]

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And yet they have not been blacklisted.

http://www.bonuswhores.com/blacklisted-sites.php

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Yeah I'm looking into that.

[Pokeraddict]

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And yet they have not been blacklisted.

http://www.bonuswhores.com/blacklisted-sites.php

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Yeah I'm looking into that.

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AP has now been blacklisted there.

[goofyballer]

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And yet they have not been blacklisted.

http://www.bonuswhores.com/blacklisted-sites.php

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Yeah I'm looking into that.

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AP has now been blacklisted there.

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This is awesome and a huge step imo. I used bw.com a lot when I was first starting out at online poker and my early bankroll was highly dependent on bonus whoring, so hopefully more people like me 3 years ago will see that site and this will make a real monetary impact on Absolute.

BonusWhores is basically a huge affiliate, right? It would be great to see other affiliates step in line and cease advertising and taking new customers for Absolute.

[MicroBob]

More than that though...I would like to see these sites specifically recommend against playing or depositing there.

Ceasing advertising only accomplishes part of the goal.

However, RTR and TITN and places like that do have a responsibility to their current customers who want to continue to play there I guess. Burning all bridges with AP could result in no more RB payments and then their own customers are unhappy with them for taking such action.

[adanthar]

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Don't these moves inhibit our ability to protect ourselves from smart superusers? Some of the listed items were used in breaking this Absolute scandal. I think that the current trend should be towards more transparency not less.

Can we rely on ANY poker site to provide the protection that we're paying for with rake?

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To be perfectly honest, I not only think this is an isolated incident, I also think that this has opened a bunch of eyes at various security departments. You won't see Stars, FTP, etc. directly commenting on this because they don't want to speak badly about a competitor, but you can bet a lot of money that they are on top of this (I certainly am), with or without making it clear to everyone else what they're doing.

Certainly, my well educated guess is that no hole card cam account - if they even exist elsewhere - will ever have the ability to be logged into unchecked again.

[Suigin406]

great to see that AP has now been blacklisted, but who knows if that'll actually affect their traffic...

when i first started playing, BW was a huge help for me when building my BR, so it's nice to see this, it really is

sux for the affiliates, they can't ditch their customers who want to play there though

[Jehaim]

Lol at their avatar=

[mother_brain]

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You won't see Stars, FTP, etc. directly commenting on this because they don't want to speak badly about a competitor, but you can bet a lot of money that they are on top of this (I certainly am), with or without making it clear to everyone else what they're doing.


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I will agree with this comment 100% once we have evidence that APs site traffic and rake intake has been effected due to this scandal. Until AP's profit is effected by this scandal we have no reason to believe that incentive has been created for the other sites to be more dilligent in their efforts to catch cheaters.

Business 101: if a company doesn't think that doing something will help them profit, they wont do it.

[pokeriz]

I agree with this [censored] 100% too.
here i have more detailed information about AP Cheating Scandal:

http://www.neverwinpoker.com/forums/...howtopic=44393