Hacker Attack (All Info Game Thread - Feb 19 Start)

[antidan444]

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Hey guys - here are my peeks

N1 - Soah - good
N2 - Traz - good
N3 - Luckay - evil
N4 - Zurvan - good
N5 - StephenH - evil

Vote Neil Stevens

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Yeah I'm an idiot. Sorry durron.

[antidan444]

I'm too slow too.

[antidan444]

Adding luckay's peeks:

WITHOUT ME AS VILLAGE:
LUCKAY - 4 evil
BOOKS - 3 evil, 2 good
STEPHEN - 2 evil, 3 good
XORBIE - 1 evil
FNORD - 1 evil
JJHENDER - 1 evil
NEIL - 1 good, 1 evil
XOOM - 1 evil, 2 good
BRAM - 1 good
TFG - 1 good
JEREMY - 1 good
AMPLIFY - 2 good
DAN - 2 good
KYRO - 2 good
ZURVAN - 2 good
TRAZ - 3 good

WITH ME AS VILLAGE:
LUCKAY - 4 evil
BOOKS - 3 evil, 2 good
NEIL - 2 evil, 3 good
STEPHEN - 2 evil, 4 good
XORBIE - 1 evil
JJHENDER - 1 evil
FNORD - 1 evil, 1 good
XOOM - 1 evil, 2 good
TRAZ - 1 evil, 4 good
BRAM - 1 good
TFG - 1 good
KBAR - 1 good
JEREMY - 1 good
ZURVAN - 2 good
KYRO - 2 good
AMPLIFY - 4 good

[LuckayLuck]

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Adding luckay's peeks:

WITHOUT ME AS VILLAGE:
LUCKAY - 4 evil
BOOKS - 3 evil, 2 good
STEPHEN - 2 evil, 3 good
XORBIE - 1 evil
FNORD - 1 evil
JJHENDER - 1 evil
NEIL - 1 good, 1 evil
XOOM - 1 evil, 2 good
BRAM - 1 good
TFG - 1 good
JEREMY - 1 good
AMPLIFY - 2 good
DAN - 2 good
KYRO - 2 good
ZURVAN - 2 good
TRAZ - 3 good


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Quick interjection: The fact that I have 4x evil is not any indication of my evilness...in fact, I'm not even sure what this list sets out to accomplish since there is roughly the same amount of useless as paranoid useless, insane as real, etc etc

[LuckayLuck]

I didn't read your post carefully enough. Scratch my previous

[Stephen H]

Why on earth is everyone so eager to be a useful seer?

This game feels like it's degenerated into everyone trusting random PMs from Durron over wolf reads etc. I swear if one more person says "let's kill so-and-so because I'm probably the seer" I'm going to go completely nutsoid.

Also, "majority rules" seering will not work. There are far more wolves than useful seers, and we've probably killed about half of our useful seers at this point (without getting any info from them, either.

I'm going to think on whether this is village luckay or wolf luckay.

[Neil S]

Good morning.

Hey Zurvan, sorry about that last night. Upon re-reading, it looks like I did exaggerate a bit, so I see what you were on about. But it also looks like you mis-read JJ, so, let's just move on?

[Voj]

Just to be clear, I voted Luckay because I think he's wolf. I already voted him on d4 (or d3 ?) based on my reads. The peeks are just a small supplementary reason to go for him..

[Neil S]

Question for the day: If we avoid lynching people that are potentially villagers according to our potential normal and insane seers, how many people remain lynchable?

That might not be a viable strategy if our options are constrained to people that don't seem like good choices otherwise.

[fnord_too]

Lot's to think about today.

I want to vote neil, but I started typing out my reasons and Luckay's two peeks are the same as bluff, a likely seer. I have a hard time swallowing that he he thought he was a useless seer and lead a huge charge on bluff when he had a good confirmed peek and an duplicate evil; I just don't see how he doesn't think for a second "hey, maybe I am a real seer, and if so, bluff just gave a wolf in his list, that is maybe worth waiting and seeing on."

Also, and this is [censored] huge:

WHY THE [censored] WOULD LUCKAY DUPLICATE BLUFFS OTHER WOLF PEEK LAST NIGHT?????? That makes absolutely [censored] zero sense. none. at all. We have a likely real seer dead and confirmed village. luckay is thinking he might be a real seer, too. Luckay knows he is going to be catching, rightfully so, a lot of heat, so he peeks someone utterly useless?

Ok, here is what I think. I think if luckay is a wolf (and I DO think he is a wolf now) wdc and neil are also wolves he is giving up as lost. If he is a legit seer, we can keep getting peeks from him.

If he is a normal villager who fps'd that list because he does not want the village to lynch him and has convinced himself bluff was a seer so he can fps away, I am voting him in the next five games I play with him, without exception, because if he is a normal villager he is damaging the village's chances greatly here.


Cliff's Notes:

vote neil
if luckay is a seer, neil + wdc = wolf
if luckay is a wolf, neil + wdc = likely wolves
if luckay is a villager and that list is fabricated, luckay = voted by me until he is dead for the next five games (Vendetta's excluded)
if luckay is a useless seer and that list is legit, and Durron confrims after the game, [censored].