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View Poll Results: Hands Per Day
Less than 500 34 35.05%
500-1000 28 28.87%
1000-2000 26 26.80%
2000-3000 5 5.15%
4000+ 4 4.12%
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Old 02-25-2007, 12:48 AM
fnord_too fnord_too is offline
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Default Re: Hacker Attack (All Info Game Thread - Feb 19 Start)

Luckay - 5 - Amplify, Herbie, jjehnder, kyro, nich
Neil - 3 - Bluff, jjhender, stephen h
fnord - 3 - bluff, TFG, xorbie
traz - 7 - Herbie, Jeremy, jjhender, kbar, kyro, stephen, tfg
Zurvan - 5 - herbie, jjhender, kbar, the bram, xoom
Stephen h - 9 - herbie, jeremy, jjhender, kbar, kyro, nich, tfg, bram, xoom
Kyro, nich have 3, everyoen else less I believe.

Next will be to count good/bad ratio given what we know about sanity insanity (e.g. we know if amp is useful he is insane since he peeked chuck and md as evil).
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Old 02-25-2007, 12:56 AM
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[0] amplify
[0] antidan444
[0] fnord_too voted for Neil Stevens
[0] HerbieGRD voted for Neil Stevens
[1] Jeremy517
[0] jjhender voted for Jeremy517
[0] kbar13 voted for traz
[0] kyro
<font color="red"> [5] LuckayLuck voted for Neil Stevens </font>
[4] Neil Stevens voted for Stephen H
[0] Nez477 voted for Luckayluck
[0] Nicholasp27
[1] Stephen H voted for Neil Stevens
[0] thebram voted for Luckayluck
[1] traz
[0] TruFloridaGator
[0] Voj voted for Luckayluck
[0] wdcbooks
[0] xoom
[0] xorbie voted for Luckayluck
[0] Zurvan voted for Luckayluck
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Old 02-25-2007, 01:48 AM
antidan444 antidan444 is offline
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Default Re: Hacker Attack (All Info Game Thread - Feb 19 Start)

Durron,

I voted for luckay.

Also, I went back and double-checked my notes, and I don't believe Herbie has voted for anyone so far today.
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Old 02-25-2007, 01:50 AM
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Default Re: Hacker Attack (All Info Game Thread - Feb 19 Start)

By double-checked my notes, I meant double-checked the posts made today.

Not trying to give you a hard time, just trying to help. You're running a great game (and probably getting a hell of a laugh at the village so far).
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Old 02-25-2007, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: Hacker Attack (All Info Game Thread - Feb 19 Start)

Luckay - 4 evil 1 good
Neil - 1 evil 2 good
fnord - 1 evil + 1 more likely evil 1 good
traz - 6 good 1 evil
Zurvan - 2 good 3 evil
Stephen h - 5 good 4 evil


luckay is fine.

I missed wdc above. 4 - amp, bluff, kyro, bram. 3-1 effective evil.


Thoughts on our candidate useful seers:
amplify - could be insane. if so, bluff, kyro, and bram all out.
Bluff - I like him as useful true seer
HerbieGRD - decent chances he is useful
Jeremy517 - I am guessing useless
jjhender - I am guessing useless
kbar13 - Guessing useless
kyro - good chance he is insane
Nich - possible still, would like to see his night 5 peek
Stephen h - useless IMO
TFG - useless IMO
thebram - decent candidate
xoom - useless IMO
xorbie - useless IMO

best guess, 2 normal seers 2 insane seers. normal seers are bluff and bram, insane seers are kyro and someone else. I believe those three have internal consistency. If the wolves screwed up a peek, it is nice if they made amp peek wdc evil, then we have lots of internal consistency, but all this is still a long shot.

People my three picks agree on:
wdc is evil (all three)
stephen h is good (kyro and bram)

wdc is not a bad lynch at all from this perspective, but luckay or neil are sweet lynches, too.
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:00 AM
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Default Re: Hacker Attack (All Info Game Thread - Feb 19 Start)

So, this is why I double-check crap once I get back home: I totally missed zurvan's peek of me, and need to add this info in to my analysis (under the part where I'm village).

I'm reposting the whole thing again just for completeness' sake.

*** WITHOUT ME AS VILLAGER ***

AMPLIFY
Peeked both chuck and doran as evil (both wrong). Peeked luckay and xorbie as good

and books as evil. He’s either useless or insane.
IF INSANE: luckay and xorbie are evil and books is good.

FNORD-TOO
Peeked doran as good (correct). Also peeked kyro, bram, xoom and TFG as good.

There’s a good chance he’s naive, but still a chance he’s normal.
IF NORMAL: kyro, bram, xoom and TFG are good

NEZ
Peeked soah as good (correct). Also peeked dan, xoom, neil and amp as good. Could

be naive or normal.
IF NORMAL: dan, xoom, neil and amp are good.

HERBIE
Peeked soah as good (correct). Peeked traz and zurvan as good and stephen and

luckay as evil. He could be normal or useless.
IF NORMAL: traz and zurvan are good, stephen and luckay are evil.

KYRO
Peeked chuck as evil (wrong). Peeked stephen and traz as evil and books and luckay

as good. He could be insane or useless.
IF INSANE: stephen and traz are good, books and luckay are evil.

NEIL
Peeked econo as good (correct). Peeked dan, stephen, traz and books as good. He

could be normal or naive.
IF NORMAL: dan, stephen, traz and books are good.

NICH
Peeked chuck as good (correct). Peeked stephen, luckay and xoom as evil. He could

be normal or useless.
IF NORMAL: stephen, luckay and xoom are evil.

BRAM
Peeked soah and FMXDA as good (correct). Peeked stephen and zurvan as good and

books as evil. He could be normal or useless.
IF NORMAL: stephen and zurvan are good, books is evil.

XORBIE
Peeked chuck and bluff as good (correct). Peeked kyro as good and fnord and

jjhender as evil. He could be normal or useless.
IF NORMAL: kyro is good, fnord and jjhender are evil.

LUCKAY - 4 evil
BOOKS - 2 evil, 2 good
STEPHEN - 2 evil, 3 good
XORBIE - 1 evil
FNORD - 1 evil
JJHENDER - 1 evil
XOOM - 1 evil, 2 good
BRAM - 1 good
TFG - 1 good
AMPLIFY - 1 good
NEIL - 1 good
DAN - 2 good
KYRO - 2 good
ZURVAN - 2 good
TRAZ - 3 good

*** CHANGES WITH ME AS VILLAGER ***

NEZ
Peeked soah and dan as good (correct). Also peeked xoom, neil and amp as good.

Could be naive or normal.
IF NORMAL: xoom, neil and amp are good.

NEIL
Peeked econo and dan as good (correct). Peeked stephen, traz and books as good. He

could be normal or naive.
IF NORMAL: dan, stephen, traz and books are good.

FCBL
Peeked dan as good (correct) Peeked neil and amp as good. He could be normal or

naive.
IF NORMAL: neil and amp are good.

STEPHEN
Peeked dan as evil (wrong). Peeked amp and kbar as evil and traz and neil as good.

He could be insane or useless.
IF INSANE: amp and kbar are good and traz and neil are evil.

ZURVAN
Peeked dan as evil (wrong). Peeked traz, stephen, fnord and neil as evil. He could

be paranoid or insane.
IF INSANE: traz, stephen, fnord and neil are all good.

LUCKAY - 4 evil
BOOKS - 2 evil, 2 good
STEPHEN - 2 evil, 4 good
XORBIE - 1 evil
JJHENDER - 1 evil
FNORD - 1 evil, 1 good
XOOM - 1 evil, 2 good
NEIL - 1 evil, 3 good
TRAZ - 1 evil, 4 good
BRAM - 1 good
TFG - 1 good
KBAR - 1 good
ZURVAN - 2 good
KYRO - 2 good
AMPLIFY - 3 good

That's what I have. I think the way fnord is doing his may be slightly different (and given his background more accuurate).
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:01 AM
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Default Re: Hacker Attack (All Info Game Thread - Feb 19 Start)

Yeah notepad sucks ass. Let me try that again.

PEEK BREAKDOWN
NOTE: Does not include those with all living peeks, or at least one of each a correct and incorrect peek, in which case that person would be useless.

*** WITHOUT ME AS VILLAGER ***

AMPLIFY
Peeked both chuck and doran as evil (both wrong). Peeked luckay and xorbie as good and books as evil. He’s either useless or insane.
IF INSANE: luckay and xorbie are evil and books is good.

FNORD-TOO
Peeked doran as good (correct). Also peeked kyro, bram, xoom and TFG as good. There’s a good chance he’s naive, but still a chance he’s normal.
IF NORMAL: kyro, bram, xoom and TFG are good

NEZ
Peeked soah as good (correct). Also peeked dan, xoom, neil and amp as good. Could be naive or normal.
IF NORMAL: dan, xoom, neil and amp are good.

HERBIE
Peeked soah as good (correct). Peeked traz and zurvan as good and stephen and luckay as evil. He could be normal or useless.
IF NORMAL: traz and zurvan are good, stephen and luckay are evil.

KYRO
Peeked chuck as evil (wrong). Peeked stephen and traz as evil and books and luckay as good. He could be insane or useless.
IF INSANE: stephen and traz are good, books and luckay are evil.

NEIL
Peeked econo as good (correct). Peeked dan, stephen, traz and books as good. He could be normal or naive.
IF NORMAL: dan, stephen, traz and books are good.

NICH
Peeked chuck as good (correct). Peeked stephen, luckay and xoom as evil. He could be normal or useless.
IF NORMAL: stephen, luckay and xoom are evil.

BRAM
Peeked soah and FMXDA as good (correct). Peeked stephen and zurvan as good and books as evil. He could be normal or useless.
IF NORMAL: stephen and zurvan are good, books is evil.

XORBIE
Peeked chuck and bluff as good (correct). Peeked kyro as good and fnord and jjhender as evil. He could be normal or useless.
IF NORMAL: kyro is good, fnord and jjhender are evil.

LUCKAY - 4 evil
BOOKS - 2 evil, 2 good
STEPHEN - 2 evil, 3 good
XORBIE - 1 evil
FNORD - 1 evil
JJHENDER - 1 evil
XOOM - 1 evil, 2 good
BRAM - 1 good
TFG - 1 good
AMPLIFY - 1 good
NEIL - 1 good
DAN - 2 good
KYRO - 2 good
ZURVAN - 2 good
TRAZ - 3 good

*** CHANGES WITH ME AS VILLAGER ***

NEZ
Peeked soah and dan as good (correct). Also peeked xoom, neil and amp as good. Could be naive or normal.
IF NORMAL: xoom, neil and amp are good.

NEIL
Peeked econo and dan as good (correct). Peeked stephen, traz and books as good. He could be normal or naive.
IF NORMAL: dan, stephen, traz and books are good.

FCBL
Peeked dan as good (correct) Peeked neil and amp as good. He could be normal or naive.
IF NORMAL: neil and amp are good.

STEPHEN
Peeked dan as evil (wrong). Peeked amp and kbar as evil and traz and neil as good. He could be insane or useless.
IF INSANE: amp and kbar are good and traz and neil are evil.

ZURVAN
Peeked dan as evil (wrong). Peeked traz, stephen, fnord and neil as evil. He could be paranoid or insane.
IF INSANE: traz, stephen, fnord and neil are all good.

LUCKAY - 4 evil
BOOKS - 2 evil, 2 good
STEPHEN - 2 evil, 4 good
XORBIE - 1 evil
JJHENDER - 1 evil
FNORD - 1 evil, 1 good
XOOM - 1 evil, 2 good
NEIL - 1 evil, 3 good
TRAZ - 1 evil, 4 good
BRAM - 1 good
TFG - 1 good
KBAR - 1 good
ZURVAN - 2 good
KYRO - 2 good
AMPLIFY - 3 good
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:05 AM
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[0] amplify
[0] antidan444 voted for Luckayluck
[0] fnord_too voted for Luckayluck
[0] HerbieGRD voted for Neil Stevens
[1] Jeremy517
[0] jjhender voted for Jeremy517
[0] kbar13 voted for traz
[0] kyro
<font color="red"> [7] LuckayLuck voted for Neil Stevens </font>
[3] Neil Stevens voted for Stephen H
[0] Nez477 voted for Luckayluck
[0] Nicholasp27
[1] Stephen H voted for Neil Stevens
[0] thebram voted for Luckayluck
[1] traz
[0] TruFloridaGator
[0] Voj voted for Luckayluck
[0] wdcbooks
[0] xoom
[0] xorbie voted for Luckayluck
[0] Zurvan voted for Luckayluck
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:05 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
Hey guys - here are my peeks

N1 - Soah - good
N2 - Traz - good
N3 - Luckay - evil
N4 - Zurvan - good
N5 - StephenH - evil

Vote Neil Stevens

[/ QUOTE ]

quoted for antidan
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Old 02-25-2007, 02:09 AM
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alright guys...
I tried subtly defending myself, but it clearly won't work.

BIG ANNOUNCEMENT
HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT
I AM PROBABLY ACTUALLY A USEFUL, REAL, SEER

Yesterday night, I truly believed that I was a useless seer. I had originally peeked Neil Stevens as a "calibration peek" -- I had him as 100% Villager on d1. BTW, I should note that this was my brilliant plan on d1 -- peek someone who I knew was 100% villager and calibrate my peeks around there. I also tried to get the wolves to mess with me n1 to divert attention away from other peeks by proclaiming that I was "peeking someone good" -- and yes, that was true [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I peeked someone I had as 100% good -- neil, probably not someone the wolfteam expected me to peek.

I tried to get the wolf team yesterday to eat me because I believed I was useless, by NOT posting my peeks and proclaiming myself as "useless" (a level 3 move) -- by being shady and stuff like that. Well, surprise surprise, I peek mr. books and BAM, wolf. Bluff coming up village meant to me that perhaps he really was a seer, and only then did I think that maybe neil was evil that night. Well, fine, lucky gets another 100% villager read wrong. sigh...

I AM THE SEER. FOR SERIOUS. I AM REALLY THE SEER. I AM PRETTY FREAKING CERTAIN THAT I AM THE SEER.

I actually find it really sad that I have to come out now...I feel like I'm in a position that if I didn't have pressure I could just cruise and peek the entire wolf team.

N1: Neil Stevens - Evil
N2: MDD - Good
N3: Amplify - Good
N4: Jeremy - Good
N5: WDCBooks - Evil

It's time to drop the charade, and...
lynch Neil Stevens


And, for easy reference...since BluffBlank was probably a seer, Fnord and Kyro are both extremely likely to be villagers.
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