SSNL [cheese] thread: NOV 2007 (nc)

[manlyman]

Plz let it continue.

[rapidacid]

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $111.65
BTN: $18.40
Hero (SB): $145.30
BB: $32.80
UTG: $248.80
MP: $242.25

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $5</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $16.50</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $16, BB folds, MP calls $11.50

Flop: ($50.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $33</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $66</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $128.80 and is All-In</font>, CO calls $29.15 and is All-In

Turn: ($240.80) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($240.80) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $240.80 Pot ($3 Rake)
CO showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a full house, Queens full of Fours) and WON $237.80 (+$126.15 NET)
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Fours) and LOST (-$111.65 NET)

[rapidacid]

What are these heater things people talk about.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $103.35
SB: $72.85
BB: $40
UTG: $233.35
MP: $107.20
Hero (CO): $116.45

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $3.50</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $3.50, BTN folds, SB calls $3, BB folds

Flop: ($11.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $10</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $30</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $101.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $112.95 and is All-In</font>, UTG calls $11.45

Turn: ($237.40) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($237.40) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $237.40 Pot ($3 Rake)
UTG showed J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a full house, Jacks full of Tens) and WON $234.40 (+$117.95 NET)
Hero showed 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Eights full of Tens) and LOST (-$116.45 NET)

[Imrahil]

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What do you think about Fabian's call w/ AJ no diamonds on a 4 to a flush board in his CR video at around 44:30?? I thought that villain was more likely to have KxQ[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or KxJ[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] more often than he's turning a PP into a bluff.

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generally alot of decent aggro players bluff at 4 flush boards. Especially heads up, if some aggro guy bets like 3/4 pot when 4th flush card comes i usually snapcall with TPGK or better. Also he had like 1500(?) hands on him and several notes, i guess he had a good read. Plus hes playing pretty loose so villain assigns a wider range to him there on the river. correct me if im wrong on this.

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I think KQo and KJo need to be heavily discounted as I don't think a 21/15 or whatever he was coldcalls an UTG raise with those hands preflop. Also, if KxQd and KxJd are possible/likely on the river, so are KxQx and KxJx, which I think are about as likely to be bet as say 7x7x. Keep in mind he's likely putting us on an ace, so he needs to bluff with both a pair of sevens and a pair of kings.

I didn't have any reads on the guy though apart from his vpip and pfr and my general impression of that type of player.

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OK thanks for the response. I like your videos by the way, keep them up.

[MyironThumb]

is anyone playing in the ftops tonight and wanna sell a % of themselves? pm me or whatever

i'd play but donkaments put me on life tilt

[McBeef]

I GIVE UP

ftp beat me, i tried to get even, but ftp teased like a cat with a baby bird.... each time i drew closer and closer only to be mercilessly beaten back by the cold breath of ftp, each missed flop was like a slap in the face, the donks came from far and wide to sit on my tables but still ftp refused to let me get even except for one fleeting moment. oh well including rakeback i probably profited for the day

those last 1000 hands were the gayest 1000 hands ive ever played by far

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winning any one of these hands wouldve got me to even and i wouldve quit instantly obv, bnut i kept losing the final hand and then losing another pot to go back down 300 or whatever, so think of the context when looking at the hand, sooooo sick

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $99.60
BB: $48.40
UTG: $154.10
CO: $91
Hero (BTN): $243

Pre-Flop: A Q dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, CO calls $2, <font color="red">Hero raises to $9</font>, SB calls $8, BB calls $7, CO calls $7

Flop: ($36) 4 A 3 (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $24</font>, SB calls $24, BB calls $24, CO folds

Turn: ($108) 2 (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $210 and is All-In</font>, SB folds, BB calls $15.40 and is All-In

River: ($138.80) 5 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $138.80 Pot ($3 Rake)
BB showed 9 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a straight, Five high) and WON $67.90 (+$19.50 NET)
Hero showed A Q (a straight, Five high) and WON $67.90 (+$19.50 NET)

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $47.05
Hero (BTN): $284.85
SB: $257.50
BB: $159.50
UTG: $223.50

Pre-Flop: K Q dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, SB calls $6, BB calls $5

Flop: ($21) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $2</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $12</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $40</font>, SB folds, BB calls $28

Turn: ($103) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $237.85 and is All-In</font>, BB calls $112.50 and is All-In

River: ($328) 7 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $328 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed K Q (a full house, Sevens full of Kings) and WON $162.50 (+$3 NET)
BB showed 5 K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Sevens full of Kings) and WON $162.50 (+$3 NET)


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LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $214.65
BTN: $144.90
SB: $53.70
Hero (BB): $283.05

Pre-Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, SB calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, SB calls $4

Flop: ($12) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, SB calls $8

Turn: ($28) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $39.70 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $39.70

River: ($107.40) Q (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $107.40 Pot ($2 Rake)
SB showed T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q (a straight, King high) and WON $105.40 (+$51.70 NET)
Hero showed 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$53.70 NET)


and finally the hand that broke my spirit:

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LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $86.80
BTN: $149.60
Hero (SB): $628.50
BB: $297.80
UTG: $41.80

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $2, CO calls $2, <font color="red">BTN raises to $11</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $28</font>, 3 folds, BTN calls $17

Flop: ($62) 8 J 5 (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $36</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $121.60 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $85.60

Turn: ($305.20) A (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($305.20) K (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $305.20 Pot ($3 Rake)
BTN showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 (a flush, Ace high) and WON $302.20 (+$152.60 NET)
Hero showed J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Jacks) and LOST (-$149.60 NET)




then [censored] ftp tried to lure me back, what a [censored] bitch, teasing me like this is criminal. but i was done, a broken man

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LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $92.50
SB: $126.70
BB: $98
UTG: $41.95
Hero (CO): $249.95

Pre-Flop: K K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $6, BB calls $5

Flop: ($21) Q 6 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $17</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $72</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $127</font>, BB calls $19 and is All-In

Turn: ($203) 6 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($203) K (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $203 Pot ($3 Rake)
BB showed Q A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Sixes) and LOST (-$98 NET)
Hero showed K K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a full house, Kings full of Sixes) and WON $200 (+$102 NET)

[bubaloo]

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...;gonew=1#UNREAD

[AaronOC]

sometimes i hate HU cash games, i just though that both of us played this hand really terribly, (maybe moreso him)

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SB: $188.10
Hero (BB): $207.30

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">SB raises to $4</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, SB calls $10

Flop: ($28) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $18</font>, SB calls $18

Turn: ($64) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $42</font>, SB calls $42

River: ($148) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">SB bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20

Results: $188 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
SB showed 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a straight, Queen high) and WON $187.50 (+$93.50 NET)
Hero mucked Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Queens) and LOST (-$94 NET)

[bubaloo]

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sometimes i hate HU cash games, i just though that both of us played this hand really terribly, (maybe moreso him)

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $188.10
Hero (BB): $207.30

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">SB raises to $4</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, SB calls $10

Flop: ($28) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $18</font>, SB calls $18

Turn: ($64) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $42</font>, SB calls $42

River: ($148) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">SB bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20

Results: $188 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
SB showed 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a straight, Queen high) and WON $187.50 (+$93.50 NET)
Hero mucked Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (five of a kind, Queens) and LOST (-$94 NET)

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fyp

[Slider]

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slider doesn't have a clue what he posted ? That might be a start. Considering TAGs(nits) should have WWsf of well above LAGs if they actually knew how to play postflop. Oh wait, maybe THATS why I think LAG vs TAG is a dumb debate.

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It was more a wakeup call for nits to be taking advantage of their image when they can + the aspect of fear.

If you don't think that lags instill fear in other players, you're wrong.

My post was half to demonstrate the flaws I had when initially learning and thoughts to keep in mind when trying to play better post flop overall.

Anyways, in our FFL - Derek Anderson for Chad Johnson? You need a better QB.