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check/call 1 8.33%
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:03 AM
cha59 cha59 is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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Effective stacks 110BBs.

CO raises to $4
Button folds
Hero raises to $14 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB folds
CO raises to $42
Hero?


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Villain is 25/17 over 700 hands.
Folds to a 3bet 70%, 3bets 5%, WTSD 20%
Hero's first 3bet in ages. Hero has won 100% of showdowns this session.

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Knows what he`s going to a 4-bet when he 3-bets!



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umm is taht like an easy shove or gay shove?

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Old 10-31-2007, 01:18 AM
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Default Re: QQ in BvB

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Shove or call vs 21/19
He had raised my blind a few times & this is the first time I played back. 1.5 is his standard raise.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $49.25
SB: $48.35
Hero (BB): $95.30
UTG: $72.85
CO: $56.55

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $1.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $15.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?</font>

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i'd raise to 42
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  #2143  
Old 10-31-2007, 02:17 AM
billxo1b billxo1b is offline
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Default Re: AA hand, call river lead?

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Assuming you have more money offline, I would recommend getting a good coach immediately. Invest $5-6k now and it will pay off quick.

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Wow, that's a lot of coaching for a 25 or 50nl player.

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I'm just saying, anyone who wants to improve quickly and has the money should definitely make the investment now, rather than spend MONTHS struggling at SSNL like most players do. $5-6k is only one decent month at 1/2 so the coaching pays for itself relatively quickly.

Look at futuredoc. He got one month of coaching from Paster and now he's having $30k months. Sick.

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5k/6k is a lot for a NL100 player

how much did paster make?[img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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much more than that, but it also included staking and it was % of profits so i didnt have to pay all at once

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coach me[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-31-2007, 04:50 AM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

lol
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:36 AM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default Re: QQ in BvB

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Shove or call vs 21/19
He had raised my blind a few times &amp; this is the first time I played back. 1.5 is his standard raise.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $49.25
SB: $48.35
Hero (BB): $95.30
UTG: $72.85
CO: $56.55

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $1.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $15.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?</font>

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what about raise? you're deep, and will have position post flop. He might fold to a shove, unless he has a nice hand which more than likely beats you (he might call TT, AK, AQ... will call JJ-AA)
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:40 AM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default Re: QQ in BvB

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Villain is 28/20/3.80

Call or raise? What if I had 2 kings and no heart?

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (MP): $200
CO: $215.75
BTN: $238.80
SB: $202
BB: $186.05
UTG: $200

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7</font>, Hero calls $7, 4 folds

Flop: ($17) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $14</font> Hero ?

Results: $17 Pot ($17 Rake)

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I would raise pf and raise flop. You have a strong hand, make some money off it
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  #2147  
Old 10-31-2007, 08:58 AM
TruFloridaGator TruFloridaGator is offline
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Shove or call vs 21/19
He had raised my blind a few times &amp; this is the first time I played back. 1.5 is his standard raise.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $49.25
SB: $48.35
Hero (BB): $95.30
UTG: $72.85
CO: $56.55

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $1.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $15.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?</font>

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what about raise? you're deep, and will have position post flop. He might fold to a shove, unless he has a nice hand which more than likely beats you (he might call TT, AK, AQ... will call JJ-AA)

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This is why I was asking, he might call w/ TT,JJ,AQ,AK in BvB here. He may stack off with these postflop too. I don't know what to do vs a relative unknown here. Do I want to fold those hands out on the flop along with the possibility of an A or K flop.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:02 AM
TruFloridaGator TruFloridaGator is offline
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Default Re: QQ in BvB

Guy is like 25/19 over 100 hands, has 3 bet me habitually, probably 5-6 hands. I flatted him with 99 once &amp; c/rd the flop successfully(he folded) on a T83 flop.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (CO): $96
BTN: $238.35
SB: $65.30
BB: $190.15
UTG: $124.15

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $14</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $38</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $238.35 and is All-In</font>, Hero ?

Do I have to call after running this? Should I 4 bet more?
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:07 AM
cha59 cha59 is offline
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Shove or call vs 21/19
He had raised my blind a few times &amp; this is the first time I played back. 1.5 is his standard raise.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $49.25
SB: $48.35
Hero (BB): $95.30
UTG: $72.85
CO: $56.55

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $1.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $15.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero ?</font>

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what about raise? you're deep, and will have position post flop. He might fold to a shove, unless he has a nice hand which more than likely beats you (he might call TT, AK, AQ... will call JJ-AA)

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This is why I was asking, he might call w/ TT,JJ,AQ,AK in BvB here. He may stack off with these postflop too. I don't know what to do vs a relative unknown here. Do I want to fold those hands out on the flop along with the possibility of an A or K flop.

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Id usually just get it in. Youre going to get called by hands youre ahead of often enough to profit. If you take a flop and the board come all undercards you wont stack AK anyway, and youre likely to lose youre stack to AA KK anyway, so you might as well shove pre.
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Old 10-31-2007, 09:14 AM
cha59 cha59 is offline
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Guy is like 25/19 over 100 hands, has 3 bet me habitually, probably 5-6 hands. I flatted him with 99 once &amp; c/rd the flop successfully(he folded) on a T83 flop.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (CO): $96
BTN: $238.35
SB: $65.30
BB: $190.15
UTG: $124.15

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $14</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $38</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $238.35 and is All-In</font>, Hero ?

Do I have to call after running this? Should I 4 bet more?

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I posted a hand like this a couple weeks ago. I'd just fold and wait for a better spot, although the pot is so bloated you might almost have the odds to call.

No dont 4 bet more with marginal hands against guys like that. Do it less against them.
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