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check/call 1 8.33%
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:34 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: AA hand, call river lead?

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Assuming you have more money offline, I would recommend getting a good coach immediately. Invest $5-6k now and it will pay off quick.

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Wow, that's a lot of coaching for a 25 or 50nl player.

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I'm just saying, anyone who wants to improve quickly and has the money should definitely make the investment now, rather than spend MONTHS struggling at SSNL like most players do. $5-6k is only one decent month at 1/2 so the coaching pays for itself relatively quickly.

Look at futuredoc. He got one month of coaching from Paster and now he's having $30k months. Sick.

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5k/6k is a lot for a NL100 player

how much did paster make?[img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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I agree people would benefit. But, I don't think you should go spend 5k on coaching all at once.

Get a coach for a bit, improve. Play, improve. Get a new coach. Rinse and repeat.

I've spent <$4k on coaching. Probably about $1k of that is yet to be earned. Ie, I've paid for it, but haven't had the coaching sessions yet.

But, maybe I would have improved quicker. I dunno. But, I think I improve by gradually incorporating what my coach is teaching. Which requires me playing a lot in between coaching sessions to help it sink in. But, maybe that's cause I'm old?
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:36 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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Effective stacks 110BBs.

CO raises to $4
Button folds
Hero raises to $14 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB folds
CO raises to $42
Hero?


INFO
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Villain is 25/17 over 700 hands.
Folds to a 3bet 70%, 3bets 5%, WTSD 20%
Hero's first 3bet in ages. Hero has won 100% of showdowns this session.

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Knows what he`s doing to a 4-bet when he 3-bets!



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[img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

umm is taht like an easy shove or gay shove?

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FMP

Against this villain from the CO, I'd say it's an easy shove. Also, he's often flatting AA/KK here rather than 4-betting in position. I give less credit to four bets when they have position on me.
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:47 PM
Jbrochu Jbrochu is offline
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Default Re: $25NL Nut flush draw vs action

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Ok n00b stats question on Full Ring.

10k hands is this enough to determine anything or play 2342987532 more hands before it's means anything.

Raise more PF, limp less ?

Probably need to look at position stats to tell anything?

What kind of things in PT should I be examining.

I'm going to be looking over PT stats from this
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I'm not sure if the number of hands is enough but one thing that jumps out at me is the VPIP from the SB. 37% seems really high to me. You should use the PT filters to determine if you're actually making money in those hands or if you would have been better off folding them. (You're probably still losing money when you vpip from the SB but you want to see if you're losing less than if you had just open folded in the first place.)
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:49 PM
Ditch Digger Ditch Digger is offline
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Default Re: QQ in BvB

Villain is 28/20/3.80

Call or raise? What if I had 2 kings and no heart?

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (MP): $200
CO: $215.75
BTN: $238.80
SB: $202
BB: $186.05
UTG: $200

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7</font>, Hero calls $7, 4 folds

Flop: ($17) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $14</font> Hero ?

Results: $17 Pot ($17 Rake)
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:53 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: QQ in BvB

I raise in either scenario. I don't want a scare card to come and kill my action.
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:58 PM
Josem Josem is offline
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Default Re: QQ in BvB

DD,

re: Kh,Kc hand.

I'd be inclined to raise preflop.

Also, raising that flop seems pretty straightforward, and being happy to get it all-in if possible. If not, bet the turn and bet the river.

If you would've had no heart, I'd also be inclined to raise, check behind the turn, and call the river.
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Old 10-30-2007, 11:10 PM
BHokie1 BHokie1 is offline
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Default Re: $25NL Nut flush draw vs action

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Ok n00b stats question on Full Ring.

10k hands is this enough to determine anything or play 2342987532 more hands before it's means anything.

Raise more PF, limp less ?

Probably need to look at position stats to tell anything?

What kind of things in PT should I be examining.

I'm going to be looking over PT stats from this
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I'm not sure if the number of hands is enough but one thing that jumps out at me is the VPIP from the SB. 37% seems really high to me. You should use the PT filters to determine if you're actually making money in those hands or if you would have been better off folding them. (You're probably still losing money when you vpip from the SB but you want to see if you're losing less than if you had just open folded in the first place.)

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This is probably the better stats to look at.

25NL is very limp heavy even the full stack players, I've been limping wide with multiple limpers from lp and the sb.

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Old 10-30-2007, 11:29 PM
TheNoodleMan TheNoodleMan is offline
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Default Re: $25NL Nut flush draw vs action

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Ok n00b stats question on Full Ring.

10k hands is this enough to determine anything or play 2342987532 more hands before it's means anything.

Raise more PF, limp less ?

Probably need to look at position stats to tell anything?

What kind of things in PT should I be examining.

I'm going to be looking over PT stats from this
post


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I'm not sure if the number of hands is enough but one thing that jumps out at me is the VPIP from the SB. 37% seems really high to me. You should use the PT filters to determine if you're actually making money in those hands or if you would have been better off folding them. (You're probably still losing money when you vpip from the SB but you want to see if you're losing less than if you had just open folded in the first place.)

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This is probably the better stats to look at.

25NL is very limp heavy even the full stack players, I've been limping wide with multiple limpers from lp and the sb.



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Winning money from the SB? You are running good my friend.
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Old 10-30-2007, 11:35 PM
futuredoc85 futuredoc85 is offline
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Default Re: AA hand, call river lead?

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Assuming you have more money offline, I would recommend getting a good coach immediately. Invest $5-6k now and it will pay off quick.

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Wow, that's a lot of coaching for a 25 or 50nl player.

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I'm just saying, anyone who wants to improve quickly and has the money should definitely make the investment now, rather than spend MONTHS struggling at SSNL like most players do. $5-6k is only one decent month at 1/2 so the coaching pays for itself relatively quickly.

Look at futuredoc. He got one month of coaching from Paster and now he's having $30k months. Sick.

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5k/6k is a lot for a NL100 player

how much did paster make?[img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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much more than that, but it also included staking and it was % of profits so i didnt have to pay all at once
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Old 10-30-2007, 11:58 PM
BHokie1 BHokie1 is offline
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Default Re: AA hand, call river lead?

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Winning money from the SB? You are running good my friend.

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ty

I do limp wide from the sb but I tend to look for deeper stacks already limping in, a lot of players stack off with top pair. I mean it is 25NL, there are donks a plenty. Part of it is raising over lp limpers and taking it down preflop, but I'm sure a lot of it is running good.
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