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Less than 500 34 35.05%
500-1000 28 28.87%
1000-2000 26 26.80%
2000-3000 5 5.15%
4000+ 4 4.12%
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  #2091  
Old 02-24-2007, 10:14 PM
fnord_too fnord_too is offline
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Default Re: Hacker Attack (All Info Game Thread - Feb 19 Start)

Did bluff come out with his peeks for the first time yesterday?
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: Hacker Attack (All Info Game Thread - Feb 19 Start)

Yes. Clown FPS'd before him, obviously.
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: Hacker Attack (All Info Game Thread - Feb 19 Start)

Then I think bluff has a very high probability of being a real seer.
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: Hacker Attack (All Info Game Thread - Feb 19 Start)

Does someone want to calculate the probability of getting exactly 2 good and 2 evil peeks for non real/insane seers?
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:22 PM
xorbie xorbie is offline
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Default Re: Hacker Attack (All Info Game Thread - Feb 19 Start)

yes what sheer madness it must be to try to confirm two seers (most likely) and clear half the remaining village.

look the fact is that we have missed five lynches in a row. most of these days (if stephen is villager), the two main bandwagons have been all villager. makes me think the wolves are for the most part just sitting back, so bandwagon analysis becomes very difficult.

if a lot of people hadn't already come out and said they thought you were a wolf, this would be different. im thinking its pretty likely that all the wolves are from this list:

fnord
jjhender
luckay
traz
nez
jeremy
amp
xoom
neil

top two obv more likely because of my/tfg peeks. luckay/neil are also a likely wolf team and i'll vote either over stephen.

i'm def very happy with the above list.
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:23 PM
jjhender jjhender is offline
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Default Re: Hacker Attack (All Info Game Thread - Feb 19 Start)

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Then I think bluff has a very high probability of being a real seer.

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I don't think the probability changes all that much, since neither of them would have known anything beyond which side they were on. Based on his peeks though, it wouldn't surprise me if that waere true.
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:25 PM
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Default Re: Hacker Attack (All Info Game Thread - Feb 19 Start)

That weird looking word is were, of course.
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: Hacker Attack (All Info Game Thread - Feb 19 Start)

I had a chance to update with xorbie's peeks:

PEEK BREAKDOWN
NOTE: Does not include those with all living peeks, or at least one of each a correct and incorrect peek, in which case that person would be useless.

*** WITHOUT ME AS VILLAGER ***

AMPLIFY
Peeked both chuck and doran as evil (both wrong). Peeked luckay and xorbie as good and books as evil. He’s either useless or insane.
IF INSANE: luckay and xorbie are evil and books is good.

FNORD-TOO
Peeked doran as good (correct). Also peeked kyro, bram, xoom and TFG as good. There’s a good chance he’s naive, but still a chance he’s normal.
IF NORMAL: kyro, bram, xoom and TFG are good

NEZ
Peeked soah as good (correct). Also peeked dan, xoom, neil and amp as good. Could be naive or normal.
IF NORMAL: dan, xoom, neil and amp are good.

HERBIE
Peeked soah as good (correct). Peeked traz and zurvan as good and stephen and luckay as evil. He could be normal or useless.
IF NORMAL: traz and zurvan are good, stephen and luckay are evil.

KYRO
Peeked chuck as evil (wrong). Peeked stephen and traz as evil and books and luckay as good. He could be insane or useless.
IF INSANE: stephen and traz are good, books and luckay are evil.

NEIL
Peeked econo as good (correct). Peeked dan, stephen, traz and books as good. He could be normal or naive.
IF NORMAL: dan, stephen, traz and books are good.

NICH
Peeked chuck as good (correct). Peeked stephen, luckay and xoom as evil. He could be normal or useless.
IF NORMAL: stephen, luckay and xoom are evil.

BRAM
Peeked soah and FMXDA as good (correct). Peeked stephen and zurvan as good and books as evil. He could be normal or useless.
IF NORMAL: stephen and zurvan are good, books is evil.

XORBIE
Peeked chuck and bluff as good (correct). Peeked kyro as good and fnord and jjhender as evil. He could be normal or useless.
IF NORMAL: kyro is good, fnord and jjhender are evil.

LUCKAY - 4 evil
BOOKS - 2 evil, 2 good
STEPHEN - 2 evil, 3 good
XORBIE - 1 evil
FNORD - 1 evil
JJHENDER - 1 evil
XOOM - 1 evil, 2 good
BRAM - 1 good
TFG - 1 good
AMPLIFY - 1 good
NEIL - 1 good
DAN - 2 good
KYRO - 2 good
ZURVAN - 2 good
TRAZ - 3 good

*** CHANGES WITH ME AS VILLAGER ***

NEZ
Peeked soah and dan as good (correct). Also peeked xoom, neil and amp as good. Could be naive or normal.
IF NORMAL: xoom, neil and amp are good.

NEIL
Peeked econo and dan as good (correct). Peeked stephen, traz and books as good. He could be normal or naive.
IF NORMAL: dan, stephen, traz and books are good.

FCBL
Peeked dan as good (correct) Peeked neil and amp as good. He could be norma or naive.
IF NORMAL: neil and amp are good.

STEPHEN
Peeked dan as evil (wrong). Peeked amp and kbar as evil and traz and neil as good. He could be insane or useless.
IF INSANE: amp and kbar are good and traz and neil are evil.

LUCKAY - 4 evil
BOOKS - 2 evil, 2 good
STEPHEN - 2 evil, 3 good
XORBIE - 1 evil
FNORD - 1 evil
JJHENDER - 1 evil
XOOM - 1 evil, 2 good
NEIL - 1 evil, 2 good
TRAZ - 1 evil, 3 good
BRAM - 1 good
TFG - 1 good
KBAR - 1 good
ZURVAN - 2 good
KYRO - 2 good
AMPLIFY - 3 good
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: Hacker Attack (All Info Game Thread - Feb 19 Start)

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Does someone want to calculate the probability of getting exactly 2 good and 2 evil peeks for non real/insane seers?

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Hmm, I'll work on it.
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: Hacker Attack (All Info Game Thread - Feb 19 Start)

Xorbie,

There are clearly better lynches than I. You advocating yet another when there are several better choices from wolf hunt AND information perspectives. You are trying to, intentionally or not, split the village yet again and lead us into a bad lynch. I am still going over zurvan's spreadsheet, my intent was to see how many people had peeked me when it jumped out that bluff had two good and two evil peeks. Note: I am one of the good peeks of a strong candidate good seer.
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