Serious Subject Integrity

[GoblinMason (Craig)]

Grim,

When you are older, you will look back on this and be ashamed of yourself. (I hope.)

-Craig

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this is far far worse than what ZJ did,

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Nope.

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durr,

Nope is right. Grim is as far as we know, a one time angleshooter, whereas ZJ is a serial cheater. But MUCH more importantly, if what Grim did became widely known to the recreational players, it wouldn't harm the integrity or viability of the game as a whole, because they would just view revlis as an idiot who made a degenerate bet and got suckered. Whereas with the actions of ZJ & JJProd and others (unknown but suspected), those actions becoming widely known threatens the willingness of the already jittery recreational player base who thinks bots and hackers might be cheating them already, to continue to play, which threatens the livelihoods of all of us serious players. Big difference.

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You can't be serious with using this as a reason to keep a already jittery recreational player base on the tables so you don't starve. You are not a wheat farmer in Nebraska who's harvest is being threatened by drought or swarms of locust.

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not to hijack the thread but i had a much worse angle shoot pulled on me.
commerce 20-40NL, me and another player agree to go allin blind for 10K, before we do we ask the entire table if everyone is ok with this.
everyone agrees to fold their cards and we tell the blinds we will give them their money back.

so i put my money in the pot first cuz i'm in early position, everyone folds around to the cutoff who is not the person i agreed to the deal with, he looks at his cards and calls me.
the player i agreed to go allin with folds and i'm up against AA.

biggest angle shoot i've ever seen in my life.

if anyone ever plays at the commerce the guy that did it is named ruppee and is a young indian dude.
total douchebag.

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Holy christ that's dirty.

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I would only make this arrangement if the person I arranged with was SB/BB and I was the other blind. Pushing UTG is suicide man.

It's one thing flipping HU, its totally another doing it at a full table.

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Why does this make so much sense?

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not to hijack the thread but i had a much worse angle shoot pulled on me.
commerce 20-40NL, me and another player agree to go allin blind for 10K, before we do we ask the entire table if everyone is ok with this.
everyone agrees to fold their cards and we tell the blinds we will give them their money back.

so i put my money in the pot first cuz i'm in early position, everyone folds around to the cutoff who is not the person i agreed to the deal with, he looks at his cards and calls me.
the player i agreed to go allin with folds and i'm up against AA.

biggest angle shoot i've ever seen in my life.

if anyone ever plays at the commerce the guy that did it is named ruppee and is a young indian dude.
total douchebag.

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Holy christ that's dirty.

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I would only make this arrangement if the person I arranged with was SB/BB and I was the other blind. Pushing UTG is suicide man.

It's one thing flipping HU, its totally another doing it at a full table.

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Why does this make so much sense?

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They were the only 2 at the table.

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After this thread, I think it's pretty clear why you "can't get girls," grim. You're a total douche.

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this thread needs an appearance from zeejustin and el diablo.

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chuddo,

Anything that El D would say has probably already been said, even if not as well. And anything that ZJ would say can't be taken at face value.

[Jamougha]

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After this thread, I think it's pretty clear why you "can't get girls," grim. You're a total douche.

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So far as I've noticed this has never stopped anyone else.

[DonButtons]

for a second I thought this wasnt so bad b/c estreets himself could of been angle shooting and only pushing good hands on his next hand. ive seen this soooo much on party its not even funny, but since grim. aggred to go allin I think its stupid if your not sure yourself your opponent is pushing 100% of the time preflop)

But by agreeing you basically pick up a small ev angle shoot and your a scum for agreeing to something like this and backing out imo. If trust is the issue on him pushing 100% of the time preflop on the next hand, dont agree in the first place.

[Fly]

Aside from everyone's feelings about Grim, does anyone actually feel sorrry for revlis? or RBK?