MONSTER variance (w/ graphs)

[Schneids]

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Seriously can we get back to the doughnutz bashing? Ill start.

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OK sounds like fun!!

hokeypokeys2: posts small blind $50
doughnutz: posts big blind $100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PapaWarbucks [Qh Jd]
PapaWarbucks: raises $100 to $200
noel0505 has returned
noel0505 was removed from the table for failing to post
nimag: raises $100 to $300
hokeypokeys2: calls $250
noel0505 joins the table at seat #2
doughnutz: calls $200
PapaWarbucks: calls $100
*** FLOP *** [Tc 2s 8c]
hokeypokeys2: checks
doughnutz: checks
PapaWarbucks: bets $100
nimag: folds
hokeypokeys2: raises $100 to $200
doughnutz: raises $100 to $300
PapaWarbucks: calls $200
hokeypokeys2: calls $100
*** TURN *** [Tc 2s 8c] [3d]
hokeypokeys2: checks
doughnutz: checks
PapaWarbucks: checks
*** RIVER *** [Tc 2s 8c 3d] [Kc]
hokeypokeys2: checks
doughnutz: bets $200
PapaWarbucks: folds
hokeypokeys2: calls $200
*** SHOW DOWN ***
doughnutz: shows [6c 2c] (a flush, King high)
hokeypokeys2: mucks hand
doughnutz collected $2498 from pot



Though actually I'm not posting this to bash him; more so, a serious Q for someone who has/uses pokerstove to answer for me: How ok/good/bad is his preflop call? I would never think to call with a hand like that, but maybe pokerstove is going to tell us it's ok against loose players.

[El Diablo]

PB,

"we should be able to find a lhe game that you will book me in."

This is getting ridiculous. Daryn is willing to book you in a HU game against him. Jay has said he is willing to book 6 figures against you in that game.

You have pointed out that this started out w/ daryn ripping you in live 100/200 threads, therefore he should crossbook you in those games. However, you have offered that, and daryn has stated that he thinks that regardless of his prior comments, he thinks you may be able to win in those games. Therefore, there's no point in continuing to bring up that point.

So, at this point, there's an outstanding challenge for you to play daryn HU. If you're willing to discuss that, great. If not, there's really no point in you and daryn continuing back and forth with this nonsense.

[The Funky Llama]

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Though actually I'm not posting this to bash him; more so, a serious Q for someone who has/uses pokerstove to answer for me: How ok/good/bad is his preflop call? I would never think to call with a hand like that, but maybe pokerstove is going to tell us it's ok against loose players.

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I'm not in the mood for pokerstoving, but I'd be flabbergasted if the call was anywhere close to neutral EV, especially since mr. nutz is not closing the action.

[PokerBob]

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PB,

"we should be able to find a lhe game that you will book me in."

This is getting ridiculous. Daryn is willing to book you in a HU game against him. Jay has said he is willing to book 6 figures against you in that game.

You have pointed out that this started out w/ daryn ripping you in live 100/200 threads, therefore he should crossbook you in those games. However, you have offered that, and daryn has stated that he thinks that regardless of his prior comments, he thinks you may be able to win in those games. Therefore, there's no point in continuing to bring up that point.

So, at this point, there's an outstanding challenge for you to play daryn HU. If you're willing to discuss that, great. If not, there's really no point in you and daryn continuing back and forth with this nonsense.

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although you clearly feel otherwise, none of this concerns you.

[PokerBob]

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Though actually I'm not posting this to bash him; more so, a serious Q for someone who has/uses pokerstove to answer for me: How ok/good/bad is his preflop call? I would never think to call with a hand like that, but maybe pokerstove is going to tell us it's ok against loose players.

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I'm not in the mood for pokerstoving, but I'd be flabbergasted if the call was anywhere close to neutral EV, especially since mr. nutz is not closing the action.

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hand 0 is schneids, 1 is baronzeus, 2 is the SB and 3 is nutz. i gave schneids a pretty liberal opening range, and thus gave bz rather wide (imo) 3balling range. SB i assumed was not a stone fool.

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 25.419% 24.38% 01.04% 10784761 459741.67 { 44+, A2s+, K5s+, Q7s+, J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, 86s+, 76s, A7o+, K9o+, Q9o+ }
Hand 1: 29.092% 27.89% 01.20% 12339135 530275.92 { 44+, A5s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, A9o+, KTo+ }
Hand 2: 27.268% 26.21% 01.06% 11591764 470712.58 { JJ-22, AQs-ATs, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, AJo+, KQo }
Hand 3: 18.220% 18.00% 00.22% 7961883 98143.58 { 62s }

[Hock_]

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although you clearly feel otherwise, none of this concerns you.

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Mods: Can we please start a daryn vs Pokerbob forum?

[El Diablo]

PB,

"although you clearly feel otherwise, none of this concerns you."

It concerns everyone when you derail sweet threads like this one with that crap.

[bicyclekick]

I'll be deleting any further pbob/daryn posts in this thread so please stop.

[joker122]

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limit holdem is an absolute farce and nobody wants to admit it

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[surfdoc]

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limit holdem is an absolute farce and nobody wants to admit it

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That damn mike l. guy is admitting it so much I am sick of hearing it.