** Official July Chat Thread: The Black Swan ** - Page 208

m bozeman · #**2071** 07-22-2007, 06:43 PM

Don't know about 1408, but definitely check out Chuck and Larry; it was very good.

sccl · #**2072** 07-22-2007, 06:52 PM

Pretty sure this was -ev, but I felt like gambling a bit.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 ($279.20)
MP2 ($201.75)
MP3 ($154.50)
CO ($116)
Hero ($196)
SB ($113)
BB ($98.75)
UTG ($435.25)
UTG+1 ($235.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, 3 folds, MP3 raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $4, 1 fold, BB calls $2, UTG raises to $16, MP3 calls $12, Hero calls $12, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($65) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $60, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $180, BB folds, UTG calls $120.

Turn: ($425) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: ($425) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $425

Results in white below: 
UTG has Ah Ac (full house, aces full of nines).
Hero has 5s 6s (straight flush, nine high).
Outcome: Hero wins $425.

zyrrth · #**2073** 07-22-2007, 07:23 PM

Titan No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02/$0.04BB (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

Button ($4.97) (Hero)
SB ($2.88)
BB ($5.13)
UTG+2 ($3.94)
MP1 ($7.63)
MP2 ($4.88)
MP3 ($2.00)
CO ($3.48)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP3 calls $0.04, 1 folds, Hero calls $0.04, SB calls $0.02, BB raises to 0.16, 1 folds, Hero calls $0.16, SB calls $0.16,

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( $0.64 )
SB bets $0.08, BB calls $0.08, Hero raises to 0.8, SB calls $0.72, BB calls $0.72,

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( $3.04 )
SB bets $0.08, BB calls $0.08, Hero raises to 2.08, SB raises All-In $1.88, BB calls $2.00,

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( $9.08 )
BB bets $2.05, Hero raises All-In $1.89,

Final Pot: $12.92

Results:
Hero has 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
BB has Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB has A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Outcome: SB wins $4.29
Outcome: BB wins $8.63

lol ipoker, so awesome

bottomset · #**2074** 07-22-2007, 07:30 PM

OMG instafold the river

zyrrth · #**2075** 07-22-2007, 07:31 PM

preemptive tilt

i obv knew i wasn't good

also this 5$ to 5billion doesn't seem to work out for me

SABR42 · #**2076** 07-22-2007, 08:14 PM

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<--- non-preachy Christian

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Who created the "creator" then?

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I still don't like this argument from people who don't believe in God/a creator. You're saying that someone had to create the creator, but the standard belief from those people is that the Earth was created from some type of explosion, right? Everything has to have a starting point. Believing in a creator is more rational than believing we just evolved out of thin air.

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That isn't actually the argument from the "anti" side. It is actually a retort to an argument from the pro side.

The pro side often argue that the world is so complex and beautiful that it couldn't have occured by chance - it must have a creator.

The anti side retort that if such a creator existed, he must himself be complex (even more so in fact), and therefore, by the hypothesis of the pro side, must have been created himself.

Note the anti side are quite happy with the "out of nothing" state of affairs. The point is that if you believe the "out of nothing" thing cannot apply to the universe, you must explain why it cannot be applied to God. From this point of view it isn't "more rational" to believe in a creator - in fact it's slightly less rational, as you have suggested an even more complex thing appeared out of nothing.

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Yep, this is what I was getting at. Well said.

Kos13 · #**2077** 07-22-2007, 08:16 PM

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Pretty sure this was -ev, but I felt like gambling a bit.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 ($279.20)
MP2 ($201.75)
MP3 ($154.50)
CO ($116)
Hero ($196)
SB ($113)
BB ($98.75)
UTG ($435.25)
UTG+1 ($235.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, 3 folds, MP3 raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $4, 1 fold, BB calls $2, UTG raises to $16, MP3 calls $12, Hero calls $12, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($65) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $60, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $180, BB folds, UTG calls $120.

Turn: ($425) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: ($425) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $425

Results in white below: 
UTG has Ah Ac (full house, aces full of nines).
Hero has 5s 6s (straight flush, nine high).
Outcome: Hero wins $425. 

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Please post the chat that came after this hand.

BT2 · #**2078** 07-22-2007, 08:46 PM

zyrrth, when are you going to move up?

zyrrth · #**2079** 07-22-2007, 08:54 PM

I'm playing NL10, I was just bored and there weren't any good tables going.

sccl · #**2080** 07-22-2007, 09:32 PM

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Pretty sure this was -ev, but I felt like gambling a bit.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 ($279.20)
MP2 ($201.75)
MP3 ($154.50)
CO ($116)
Hero ($196)
SB ($113)
BB ($98.75)
UTG ($435.25)
UTG+1 ($235.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, 3 folds, MP3 raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $4, 1 fold, BB calls $2, UTG raises to $16, MP3 calls $12, Hero calls $12, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($65) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $60, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $180, BB folds, UTG calls $120.

Turn: ($425) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: ($425) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $425

Results in white below: 
UTG has Ah Ac (full house, aces full of nines).
Hero has 5s 6s (straight flush, nine high).
Outcome: Hero wins $425. 

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Please post the chat that came after this hand.

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Fishin4$s said, "omigod"
kolvir said, "what happened after the flopt is just luck"
Fishin4$s said, "i don't follow, he tried to steal before flop?"
kolvir said, "let me check"
kolvir said, "you r right"
kolvir said, "draw after flop"
jaydoc said, "my j8 nogd any more"
Fishin4$s said, "really, j8?"
Fishin4$s said, "that's good"
Fishin4$s said, "thought you had nothing"

Not very funny...