My PLO8 starting hand selection

[BarbarianX]

I'm working on a list but it's much harder than make a similar for PLO High. I have an idea about keeping the pot small as long as possible. It's easier to fold and people tend to call with weak hands anyway, like busted out sets and str8's and one way hands that will make them getting quartered/freerolled etc. But in late position I probably raise with A23X (Ace suited) and AA2x (singel or double suited) if there is a bunch of limpers already in. Usually I raise with weaker AAxx hands in late position if I think I can get it heads up. And I'm always ready to go all-in with AAxx (if at least one of the x's is 8 or lower).

I believe PLO8 is a game of folding, preflop AND postflop. I'm sure there are other strategies that might work as well, but I believe hand reading is more difficult so I prefer to keep it simple and play my own cards.

[BarbarianX]

Interesting you said so, because I just made the adjustment when I was playing A29J (Ace suited) three seats from the button. I folded but thought, hey, that one I should have played...! So I added A2xx(As) to Late position and A3xx(As) to "Button and SB".

[Ironman]

Greatwhite,

This has been a point of a lot of discussion over the last couple years with this group.

I will raise with these groups of hands in general. There are a few more, but for someone who is new to the game, it's better not to stray too far away (I'll mention one other situation at the end).

Typicall raising hands:

A A 2 (pot sized raises)
A A 3-4 (pot sized raises from middle to late position)
A 2 & another good low card (smaller raise...might limp every once in awhile to change things up)

There is one other spot where I will raise. If I'm in late position with several callers in front of me and I hold 4 good high cards 10 or better, I will put in a raise.

My reasoning...most likely my opponents hold most of the low cards. When the high cards come on the flop...I have both position and cards that fit the flop. Often I can get a free card this way as well. When I check this through after the flop, many opponents will mistakenly put me on a strong ace deuce hand that missed instead of a strong high hand.

Just some thoughts,

Ironman Dave

[jthegreat]

Cool, but I will play them unsuited to the A as well. The suitedness helps, but it's not necessary.

[Bullet_Dodger]

I dont have guidelines. I play poker.

[Arouet]

Bumped for those looking for the original thread.

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Cool, but I will play them unsuited to the A as well. The suitedness helps, but it's not necessary.

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recommend suitedness unless you have liking for the rough sex that is variance

much thanks to atouni-whatever for bumping, can we sticky or will this give away a lot of info(badbeatphil advocate)?

[Buzz]

Arouet - Thanks. I finally located it, but may be nice to have it up front again.

Buzz

[Assani Fisher]

OP seems too tight imo.

[SparkMan]

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Because of lack of PLO8 literature it would be interesting to know what starting hands you play. These hands do I play:

*x=any card (of course)

EP (unraised):
AAxx
A2+3-5+x(A suited)
A346(A suited)
A356(A suited)
A456(A suited)
A23+4-6
A24+5-6
A34+5-6
2345
2346
K23+4-5(K suited)
AKK+2-5(A suited)
AQQ+2-5(A suited)
KQJT
A+ 3 cards above T(A suited)

MP (unraised):
I add
QJT9
2356
KK+ 2 cards of different rank below 5
QQ+ 2 cards of different rank below 5

LP (unraised):
I add
A3+4-5+x(A suited)
A456
2456
3456
KK+ 2 cards of different rank below 8
QQ+ 2 cards of different rank below 8

Button and SB (unraised):
I add
A4xx(A suited)
Any 4 cards above T
Any 3 cards of different rank below 6
KKxx
QQxx

I continue with raised pots in my next post

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What kind of VP$IP would this give?
It doesn't seem like it would be more than about 15%
A lot of players claim they have 30% and are winning.