Fairly easy river fold, right?

[Nick C]

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Since you made it to the river (not necessarily a bad thing, BTW), I think you're good one time in 9 here easy. Call.


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Ya, because AQ 3 bets this flop and bets this river? Doubt it.

I would fold the turn.

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I wouldn't expect Villain to 3-bet AQ on the flop either, but based on Hero's read and also Hero's recent history with Villain, it sounds like maybe Villain would do that. (Plus, there's some chance he has a worse pocket pair, too.)

In any case, I think the gutshot we picked up on the turn gives us enough to call there. I don't hate a turn fold, but it sounds like Hero was worried Villain was being over-aggro, and the gutshot at least gives us a way to get to showdown without making two incorrect calls, those times that we're losing to an overpair. I know the 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] may not help us and occasionally an 8 won't either, but I think it's fair to estimate that we have at least 5 outs on average.

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ill play for the gutter on the flop zoot, but not the turn

[Nick C]

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Nobody has mentioned the flop action, Art c/red the PFR AND the cc AND villain still three bet. It makes a difference.

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Well, yeah, that is a good point.

[Nick C]

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ill play for the gutter on the flop zoot, but not the turn

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We have a little more than a 3-4 out gutter. Catching an 8 on the river would also be a good thing.

Edit: Basically, my point is that if Hero's impression that Villain might play AK this way is correct, then I think we have enough on the turn to make a neutral call there, even if we knew we were behind. So if we want to look Villain up, we can do so without really paying 2 BBs to get to showdown.