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Old 07-17-2005, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: How to tell if you are running good or bad (Revised v2)

They are the "hands won $" column. The full details that result from my checking the box that shows only hands taken to showndown are:

straight - total times 2825, saw flop 2825, hands won $ 2511.
flush - total times 2268, saw flop 2268, hands won $ 1966.
full house - total times 2172, saw flop 2171, hands won $ 1,957.

So, I'm using the number of times the premiums win at showdown and that is the lower of the 2 numbers.
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Old 07-17-2005, 11:13 PM
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Default Re: How to tell if you are running good or bad (Revised v2)

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They are the "hands won $" column. The full details that result from my checking the box that shows only hands taken to showndown are:

straight - total times 2825, saw flop 2825, hands won $ 2511.
flush - total times 2268, saw flop 2268, hands won $ 1966.
full house - total times 2172, saw flop 2171, hands won $ 1,957.

So, I'm using the number of times the premiums win at showdown and that is the lower of the 2 numbers.

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I think this is part of the problem. You should be using the WTSD as the premiums that make it to showdown are the ones that you make the most money off of. The hands won include hands where everyone else folded before showdown.

I apologise for the confusion. Post the number of shown down straights, flushes, and fulls and the total number of hands you played during that time period.

Krishan
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Old 07-18-2005, 01:05 AM
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Default Re: How to tell if you are running good or bad (Revised v2)

Krishan,

I appreciate your patience at this and am sorry that I am being so dense about it. My absolute total hands played for the time period was 255,051.

My number of shown down straights was 2825, of which I won 2511. The number of shown down flushes was 2268 or which I won 1966. The number of shown down full houses was 2172 of which I won 1957. If I use the number of shown down hands instead of the number of won hands, then the results are even more off the 1/170 you have determined to be typical.

Since this is short handed play, at an expected 1/170, that would be 1500 of each. (255,051 hands divided by 170 = 1,500).

Is there something I am totally missing in my answer to the question, because I feel like I'm missing the point or something.
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Old 07-20-2005, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: How to tell if you are running good or bad (Revised v2)

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total hands played for the time period was 255,051.

straights 2825
shown flushes 2268
shown down full houses 2172

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You should have 1 premium per 200 so about 1250 of each. I just don't know why you are off the charts. I've thought of some guesses but it's pure speculation. Personally if my system doesn't fit your stats I'm more inclined to believe the system is flawed and you are a great player.

It may have to do with you being looser than me and the people these numbers have been based on. I think you run around 27%. Maybe the extra hands are speculative hands that often pan out into straights and flushes.

You might call down more with marginal 2 pair hands.

It all sounds very fishy. Maybe Grisgra can post his premiums at 10/20 over a 40K hand sample. He is loose and might have similiar results.

Krishan
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Old 07-20-2005, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: How to tell if you are running good or bad (Revised v2)

Well, I guess time will tell whether the results continue. I haven't been at it long enough to draw conclusions either way, as I understand the long run is really, really a long time. I would love to have some other players with similar vpip in the 10/20 post their premiums and how many hands they've played overall. Thanks for your efforts on this.
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: How to tell if you are running good or bad (Revised v2)

I run bad. Now I know for sure. Thanks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

-SmileyEH
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Old 07-20-2005, 05:55 PM
IWEARGOGGLES IWEARGOGGLES is offline
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Default Re: How to tell if you are running good or bad (Revised v2)

Weird, in my 9k hands at 1/2 6 max, my stats fit this almost to the tee.

I guess I run...alright?!
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Old 07-20-2005, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: How to tell if you are running good or bad (Revised v2)

http://www.pokergrader.com/ attempts to answer this question, and should be much more accurate than this method.
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Old 09-27-2005, 04:43 AM
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Default Re: How to tell if you are running good or bad (Revised v2)

i don't see what i'm doing wrong here. i checked a 10k bloc of hands in which i ran at 5bb/100 and this is what i see:

one pair - 40.24%
2pair - 26.3%
three - 6.6%
straight - 4.0%
flush - 3.66%
full - 4.7%

i'm looking at % of total hands, and i have the "show only hands that were not folded" box checked.

also, my numbers are similar for a bloc in which i ran poorly.
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Old 09-27-2005, 05:17 AM
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