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Old 03-18-2006, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: T9s river action

Grunch:
Preflop - raise
Flop - i think cap is a bit too much
Turn - OK
River - just call .. full house possibility
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Old 03-18-2006, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: T9s river action

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Grunch:
Preflop - raise
Flop - i think cap is a bit too much
Turn - OK
River - just call .. full house possibility

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preflop: never even considered that, don't think I should

flop: possibly, but with position and my strong draw I felt capping, was better than calling 1 more.
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Old 03-18-2006, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: T9s river action

I am new to poker. But I'll try to explain. Please tell me if this is wrong. T9s is good in multiway pots. Here you have just one limper before you. But this hand is very playable if you are in last position heads up and you maybe get top pair on the flop. So raise because there is just one limper before you.
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Old 03-18-2006, 07:33 PM
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But this hand is very playable if you are in last position heads up and you maybe get top pair on the flop. So raise because there is just one limper before you.

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That's a pretty big maybe. T9s isn't a hand I want HU. I'm not playing for Top Pair, I'm playing to flop a big draw in a multiway pot. That's generally why you play this late, and not so much up front.

However, if the table is such that there are always limpers, and no PF raisers - then you can get away limping in, counting on the passive limpers to limp behind you and not raise.

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Old 03-18-2006, 07:40 PM
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Thanks Sarge85. Now I see my mistake.
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Old 03-18-2006, 09:19 PM
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Default Re: T9s river action

With ~15 outs, I'd have raised MP1 on the flop, but since you got to cap anyway, there's not much to quibble about there.

With the nut straight and my own flush draw, I would have been tempted to call on the turn to keep BB in. But since he comes along anyway, you obviously did the right thing by 3-betting.

On the river, how likely is it that we're up against 87 or 86? Since you capped the flop and 3-bet the turn and BB still bets out on the river, I think we need to respect that possibility. I call and expect MP1 to show me a 5. Hard to believe he wouldn't be raising with his own boat.
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Old 03-18-2006, 09:21 PM
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I just call the river.
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Old 03-18-2006, 09:28 PM
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Flop - i think cap is a bit too much

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With 12 outs to a straight or a flop and two people obviously coming along, capping this is +EV. Even if we discount our outs down to 9, capping this is +EV.
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