Folding TK on the button on the bubble

[jfish]

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you aren't the only one on the bubble. both of these opponents are on the bubble too, and you have them covered. they have to pick up a monster to call. i don't play a lot of sats, but to me this is an absolutely elementary push.

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what im trying to argue here is that you can maintain the same amount of FE with a much smaller raise (a push is VERY unnecessary).

[ZBTHorton]

Is this a turbo?

[jfish]

cEV =/= $EV here.

[ZBTHorton]

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you aren't the only one on the bubble. both of these opponents are on the bubble too, and you have them covered. they have to pick up a monster to call. i don't play a lot of sats, but to me this is an absolutely elementary push.

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what im trying to argue here is that you can maintain the same amount of FE with a much smaller raise (a push is VERY unnecessary).

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Whats the difference? I'm calling a push anyway. Why invite them to call and hit something on me?

[jfish]

im most certainly not calling a push.

[ZBTHorton]

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im most certainly not calling a push.

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I need to know what tournament this is before I retype a long response.

If this is a turbo, it's def a push.

If it's some standard tourney, than alot of things change.

The worst possible play here is a min raise and fold to a push btw..and it's not even close.

[jfish]

i understand that obviously. but how many players will push into a button minraise when theyre risking a tourney that favors outlasting over accumulating chips?

[ZBTHorton]

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i understand that obviously. but how many players will push into a button minraise when theyre risking a tourney that favors outlasting over accumulating chips?

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If this is a turbo, anyone who understands that they can't fold into the money and have a decent hand.

[jfish]

yeah i dont minraise in a turbo, but i think op would specify if its a turbo. why did you assume it was over a standard?

[Pat Southern]

I dont have much satellite experience but I'd say minraise, call a SB push fold to a BB push. BB shouldn't be playing back at you without a big hand, SB might, even if he has a monster you have great odds to call. I think minraising>pushing>folding