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Old 03-13-2006, 10:40 PM
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I hate the flop 3-bet. The turn/river bets look fine.

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Why do you like the river bet? Do you really think the king on the river is gonna make him fold if the ace didnt?
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Old 03-13-2006, 10:47 PM
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Maybe? His wtsd is pretty low..I think he'll say the hell with it with an 8 or 9 or PP often enough.
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Old 03-13-2006, 10:51 PM
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Maybe? His wtsd is pretty low..I think he'll say the hell with it with an 8 or 9 or PP often enough.

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It's possible
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Old 03-13-2006, 10:54 PM
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Something to remember about these loose guys is they aren't thinking about odds the way we do. He might be 100% convinced that he's behind on the turn but still call hoping to suckout regardless of odds. He's now looking at it like a draw and there's a decent chance he'll fold on the river with some weak pairs even after calling the turn. The K should reinforce this possibility.
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Old 03-13-2006, 11:00 PM
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the only better hand he folds on the river is qj.
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Old 03-13-2006, 11:02 PM
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I'm pretty sure that's not true. We obviously never see what people fold so I can't prove it, but I don't think it's that uncommon to see some types of bad players fold pairs here.
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Old 03-13-2006, 11:26 PM
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I hate the flop 3-bet.

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Why? If you call the flop I think you have to fold the turn unimproved.

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I don't think pricing yourself in for draws on later streets is a reason to raise. Quite the opposite actually...
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Old 03-13-2006, 11:26 PM
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the only better hand he folds on the river is qj.

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This is crap.

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Old 03-13-2006, 11:34 PM
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I hate the flop 3-bet. The turn/river bets look fine.

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Old 03-14-2006, 12:26 AM
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I would think a 31 wtsd type would find a fold with a hand like 87 fairly often enough.
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