50NL is this Baluga?

[OSUGreg1983]

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hes clearly a tagfish

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can you explain this?

[AZplaya]

I could see KdQd peeling the flop and then raising the turn, but I really think were beat on this turn. My guess is 77.

[OSUGreg1983]

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I could see KdQd peeling the flop and then raising the turn

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did you look at the board?

[AZplaya]

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I could see KdQd peeling the flop and then raising the turn

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did you look at the board?

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LMAO

i shold read these hand better

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[whyzze]

basically, folding to a turn minraise really shouldn't happen every single time. Especially when you have TPTK. Laying that down is a mistake imo.

Usually, checking river and seeing what he does is good.

However, our hand just lost most of its showdown value. We can no longer profitably call any bet imo. If i'm villian, I am shoving any ace on this river. Can we give him credit for doing that? hard to say. that leaves 2 options.

c/f
block/f

[Kasane]

I don't think we can profitably call a turn min-raise here from this kind of villain.

I like bet/fold the turn. I can't call that turn unless I've seen some really stupid stuff from villain.

Villain's are usually calling us down/folding weaker hands. This isn't exactly Baluga because it's not a c/r, but it's close enough. Villain wants us in the hand and the least he can put us on is a good A.

Sure, sometimes we're ahead/splitting -- but against the range of hands that a villain like this can do this we're crushed and drawing to 0-3 outs with a street to go and oop.

[thoman8r]

As much as people throw around the term "Baluga" when it's not even remotely appropriate in this forum, I think this is actually a perfect example of the Baluga Theorem. There is no way our 1 pair hand is good. Fold the turn.

[Phildo]

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basically, folding to a turn minraise really shouldn't happen every single time. Especially when you have TPTK. Laying that down is a mistake imo.

Usually, checking river and seeing what he does is good.

However, our hand just lost most of its showdown value. We can no longer profitably call any bet imo. If i'm villian, I am shoving any ace on this river. Can we give him credit for doing that? hard to say. that leaves 2 options.

c/f
block/f

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You cannot b/f here. What do you want to do, bet $15 and then fold for $15 more into an $80 pot?

[Milky]

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basically, folding to a turn minraise really shouldn't happen every single time. Especially when you have TPTK. Laying that down is a mistake imo.

Usually, checking river and seeing what he does is good.

However, our hand just lost most of its showdown value. We can no longer profitably call any bet imo. If i'm villian, I am shoving any ace on this river. Can we give him credit for doing that? hard to say. that leaves 2 options.

c/f
block/f

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I agree that folding to a turn minraise shouldn't happen every time, however if you're going to fold to a minraise, this would definitely be one of those times. There are zero draws and the turn changed nothing, he's not semibluffing here, and I seriously doubt he's minraising you with a hand you're beating.

Also, how does our hand lose showdown value from that river card? Surely nothing's changed in this hand from the flop to the river... no draws have come in, and I doubt he has trip 2s.

[LOwrestling2001]

this is a good spot to fold, as everyone has said, this villain is not bluffing nor semi bluffing. his most likely holding is 77, as he's probably not calling K7, A7 or AK in position.