88 UTG in 12/180

[starchyy]

You can't lay this down now, he just put himself in a bad spot by raising imo.

[EroTheMad]

1.8-1 odds are good for calling all in from tight player too but here we have like 25bb, if we fold we'll have 22bb and if we call and lose we'll have like 12bb. i don't like getting under 15bb because it makes re-steal and a lot of things harder. I think folding here and playing with 22bb is better than calling and probably coinflipping.

[MVPaul]

Alright, so I guess the general consensus here is to limp pf for set value. Also, I've played maybe 20 of these 12/180 in the past 2 months and have found that the quality of play in the early-mid game is quite poor. This is why I think that the call in this particular hand is appropriate as villain's hand is quite wide.

[hamnegger]

i like a limp given stack size i like a fold as played given stack size.now think if you limped he raises 4 bbyou see a flop for 600 and can double through and hopefully someone else will call pre too building a nice pot .

[gobucks27]

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1.8-1 odds are good for calling all in from tight player too but here we have like 25bb, if we fold we'll have 22bb and if we call and lose we'll have like 12bb. i don't like getting under 15bb because it makes re-steal and a lot of things harder. I think folding here and playing with 22bb is better than calling and probably coinflipping.

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This is wrong..if you're avoiding flips in a turbo don't play..also getting close to 2:1 you're calling all day

[hamnegger]

i dont like this math fellas. were getting 2:1 but we are like 10:1 to flop a set. we have no idea where we stand unless we set. those are spots where we make mistakes and lose our whole stack. FOLD . raising pre utg w 88 is bad real bad the more i think about it unless its a short stack.

[ssnyc]

call...it's a friggin turbo and he will show u with A 3 or KQ like always...people panic and you need to gamble in spot like this in the 180's...you will be racing but that is an occupational hazard of playing a turbo

[Dan87]

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i like a limp given stack size i like a fold as played given stack size.now think if you limped he raises 4 bbyou see a flop for 600 and can double through and hopefully someone else will call pre too building a nice pot .

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this strategy makes no sense to me, are you assuming hes going to flop a set? limp-calling then folding a Q-9-5 flop when opp is shoving any 2 cards is bad

[Hollywade]

As it is, I'd probably call the shove. However, I think I'm likely to just limp UTG with 88 here.

[erc007]

This is so std. Call. You're getting 2 to 1, and you're about 1.8 to 1 against a tight/worse case scenario 3-betting range of 99+;AQs+;AQo+.