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#11
11-10-2007, 02:35 AM
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Re: His Range that beats me should be small
Taking passive lines without any real goal against decent/aggressive players is not going to yield good results. I mean if you look at your line from a range perspective, it's very questionable. If villain knows you're folding AJ here then he should double barrel this spot with 100% of his range. He's risking $90 on $130 meaning he only has to be right 40% of the time to show a profit, or in other words more than 60% of your range that check/calls the flop has to be AQ+, and that's most likely just not the case.
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#12
11-10-2007, 02:57 AM
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Re: His Range that beats me should be small
lol i played this exact hand yesterday, except the bet sizes were a little smaller. Bastard had 222.
Here I don't understand why he would bet AK on the turn, but I do see him following up a flop bluff, since, for example, AJ beats nothing but a bluff and AJ is probably as good as you can have (maybe AQ i guess). Which is why I'd talk myself into stacking off versus an aggro guy.
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#13
11-10-2007, 03:00 AM
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Re: His Range that beats me should be small
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Taking passive lines without any real goal against decent/aggressive players is not going to yield good results. I mean if you look at your line from a range perspective, it's very questionable. If villain knows you're folding AJ here then he should double barrel this spot with 100% of his range. He's risking $90 on $130 meaning he only has to be right 40% of the time to show a profit, or in other words more than 60% of your range that check/calls the flop has to be AQ+, and that's most likely just not the case. [/ QUOTE ] well yeah, this is why you probably shouldn't take this line unless you call. Check-callx2 can easily be better than bet/whatever, though. You need a real good read on a guy's frequencies to make check-call, check-fold better than bet/something. Of course I still do it too much.
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#16
11-10-2007, 04:19 AM
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Re: His Range that beats me should be small
What flop were you hoping for if you're just going to c/c this one? If you were just hoping for a fold preflop, why not c/f? Otherwise c-bet or c/r seems vastly superior.
Honestly curious, I suck.
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#17
11-10-2007, 10:43 AM
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Re: His Range that beats me should be small
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why did you cehck the folp and what otehr hands do u od this wi/ [/ QUOTE ] JJ-KK, AQ+ sometimes, obv. AJ. I took this line to get max value from the giant portion of his range I'm still beating on a board like this.
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#18
11-10-2007, 05:39 PM
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Re: His Range that beats me should be small
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[ QUOTE ] why did you cehck the folp and what otehr hands do u od this wi/ [/ QUOTE ] JJ-KK, AQ+ sometimes, obv. AJ. I took this line to get max value from the giant portion of his range I'm still beating on a board like this. [/ QUOTE ] But the problem is you're equating getting max value to him betting one street and then just completely giving up and checking it down. Against an ABC tagfish, that may well happen with a decent number of hands. But 26/21 usually are not tagfish. If he's a decent SLAG then he probably realizes most of your range can't take the heat; if he's an aggro donk then he realizes you checked to him twice on a board with scare cards.
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#19
11-10-2007, 05:51 PM
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Re: His Range that beats me should be small
preflop is ok / meh given his calling range of ur 3-bet.
Postflop: i think ur line is fine but it helps to have a read. I'd probably call the turn given his aggression
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#20
11-10-2007, 05:52 PM
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Re: His Range that beats me should be small
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But the problem is you're equating getting max value to him betting one street and then just completely giving up and checking it down. Against an ABC tagfish, that may well happen with a decent number of hands. [/ QUOTE ] not what I'm doing
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