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11-08-2007, 12:13 AM
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Re: What about this sport...
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I could beat a top pro in almost any given game. [/ QUOTE ] Uhm. In order to do this you have to be pretty damn good. If you are just a random league bowler you have almost no chance on pro conditions. I think handicapping bowling is very possible due to the PBA using only a certain number of conditions and there only being a certain number of surfaces. There would be a ton of variance, but the players do have their favorite patterns and lane types. 
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#14
11-08-2007, 01:36 AM
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Re: What about this sport...
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[ QUOTE ] I could beat a top pro in almost any given game. [/ QUOTE ] Uhm. In order to do this you have to be pretty damn good. If you are just a random league bowler you have almost no chance on pro conditions. I think handicapping bowling is very possible due to the PBA using only a certain number of conditions and there only being a certain number of surfaces. There would be a ton of variance, but the players do have their favorite patterns and lane types. [/ QUOTE ] I'm decent, when in practice I avg ~205, but right now am out of practice in a crappy lane condition league averaging 192. Put me on torched lanes with most pros my chances go WAY up though.
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#15
11-08-2007, 01:39 AM
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Re: What about this sport...
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[ QUOTE ] Also, as stated before, the variance is too high on a game-by-game basis to handicap anywhere NEAR accurately. I could beat a top pro in almost any given game. [/ QUOTE ] Also, as I said before this is not the reason that it isn't offered. It is essentially meaningless. The fact no one gives two [censored] about bowling and likely it would get no action for the amount amount of effort that goes into it is the correct answer (perhaps Pinny will throw up lines similar to its Arabic soccer leagues). [/ QUOTE ] You never said why it isn't offered. Also, duh.
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#16
11-08-2007, 01:58 AM
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Re: What about this sport...
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I could beat a top pro in almost any given game. [/ QUOTE ] Uhm. In order to do this you have to be pretty damn good. If you are just a random league bowler you have almost no chance on pro conditions. I think handicapping bowling is very possible due to the PBA using only a certain number of conditions and there only being a certain number of surfaces. There would be a ton of variance, but the players do have their favorite patterns and lane types. [/ QUOTE ] I'm decent, when in practice I avg ~205, but right now am out of practice in a crappy lane condition league averaging 192. Put me on torched lanes with most pros my chances go WAY up though. [/ QUOTE ] When in practice you are probably +30 to the average pro and +50 to the best
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#17
11-08-2007, 02:00 AM
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Re: What about this sport...
"likely it would get no action for the amount amount of effort that goes into it"
Not sure how much effort is necessary for something like this. Pinny has offered lines for AA baseball or the Arizona Fall League...leagues with pretty much zero television coverage. And, as mentioned, they also offer lines for some pretty obscure soccer leagues among other things. So why they wouldn't offer it for bowling, particularly events that are televised, is indeed somewhat interesting imo. The argument that it's too hard to handicap or has too much variance is pretty silly. But I just can't completely buy the argument that it's too much effort to be worth it because of some of the other stuff I have seen offered.
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#18
11-08-2007, 02:22 AM
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Re: What about this sport...
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I could beat a top pro in almost any given game. [/ QUOTE ] Uhm. In order to do this you have to be pretty damn good. If you are just a random league bowler you have almost no chance on pro conditions. I think handicapping bowling is very possible due to the PBA using only a certain number of conditions and there only being a certain number of surfaces. There would be a ton of variance, but the players do have their favorite patterns and lane types. [/ QUOTE ] I'm decent, when in practice I avg ~205, but right now am out of practice in a crappy lane condition league averaging 192. Put me on torched lanes with most pros my chances go WAY up though. [/ QUOTE ] When in practice you are probably +30 to the average pro and +50 to the best [/ QUOTE ] Nowhere near that much, and yes, I lose 9/10, but still, a few taps and I'm right there. I can't think of other pro sports I can say that in, (not considering poker a sport). Highest league average ever is like 255, by I think Bob Learn Jr, but that was a walled shot I could probably average 220+ on from what I heard.
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#19
11-08-2007, 02:47 AM
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Re: What about this sport...
it's a semi-reasonable assertion I guess that bowling is such that you actually would have a realistic chance of winning.
Trying to compete in any other individual sports like tennis or golf and you would have pretty much zero chance of winning. Maybe billiards or snooker or 9 ball though. And maybe a way outside chance in darts. I don't know much about any of those sports but they seem like you could have a chance if you got lucky in there. I still don't think this has anything to do with why betting isn't offered on it. Truly ANYONE can win at poker and the variance is just plain silly but they offer betting on the WSOP main-event as well as some other tournaments.
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#20
11-08-2007, 02:59 AM
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Re: What about this sport...
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I could beat a top pro in almost any given game. [/ QUOTE ] Uhm. In order to do this you have to be pretty damn good. If you are just a random league bowler you have almost no chance on pro conditions. I think handicapping bowling is very possible due to the PBA using only a certain number of conditions and there only being a certain number of surfaces. There would be a ton of variance, but the players do have their favorite patterns and lane types. [/ QUOTE ] I'm decent, when in practice I avg ~205, but right now am out of practice in a crappy lane condition league averaging 192. Put me on torched lanes with most pros my chances go WAY up though. [/ QUOTE ] When in practice you are probably +30 to the average pro and +50 to the best [/ QUOTE ] Nowhere near that much, and yes, I lose 9/10, but still, a few taps and I'm right there. I can't think of other pro sports I can say that in, (not considering poker a sport). Highest league average ever is like 255, by I think Bob Learn Jr, but that was a walled shot I could probably average 220+ on from what I heard. [/ QUOTE ] Highest league average ever is 261 by Jeff Carter who is now on tour. He is a great, great bowler, but by touring pro standards he is probably average or a little below. He's been on TV maybe 4 times in 5 or 6 years on tour. (I am too lazy to look it up for sure) 220 in league is sooooo much different than 220 on tour.
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