Pot/Implied Odds in 1/2 NL

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Player A reasons: 'I will limp ATC behind a limper in an unraised pot because I'm getting >2-1 and if I flop big I can stack someone.' He is looking at both pot odds and implied odds so do we count him?

[JABoyd]

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People are totally missing the entire point of the question. Please read the the initial posting very carefully before posting responses.

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Please differentiate your question from 'how many fish at an average 1-2 FRNL table' If people are missing the point it's just possible the OP was not well worded [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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YES...please read the original post. It is a VERY SIMPLE question.

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People are totally missing the entire point of the question. Please read the the initial posting very carefully before posting responses.

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Please differentiate your question from 'how many fish at an average 1-2 FRNL table' If people are missing the point it's just possible the OP was not well worded [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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YES...please read the original post. It is a VERY SIMPLE question.

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And the answer to my second post is????

[the_casino_kid]

in soviet russia pot implies you!!!

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in soviet russia pot implies you!!!

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the_casino_kid...thanks for your deep insight but you are missing the ENTIRE point of the question.


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[JABoyd]

Yes...but in actuallity he did not flop something big. Which is the question at hand...how many people DO CONSIDER that big and think 'I paired my A...I have a winner...call...call...call' and how many people actually think about the odds when someone bets into them??

[JABoyd]

I'd still like more people to take the poll on the original posting. I'm really interested in the results.

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I'd still like more people to take the poll on the original posting. I'm really interested in the results.

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This forum does not get the traffic required. Try BBV or SSNL imo

[Small Fry]

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2 good points. However, here is a more explicitive example of what I'm asking:

You: K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Opponent: you put him on A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Yor opponent limps from middle-late position. You raise 3x on the button. Folds around to your opponent. Heads up...

POT=$1(SB)+$2(BB)+$2(limp)+$6(raise)+$4(call)=$15

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Since you rasied preflop AND have middle pair and the nut flush draw you make a continuation bet of $15 (your rightfully put your opponent on a weak A). Your opponent will only be getting 2to1 on his money.

Any [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], any K, any Q gives you the win which gives you 15 outs. He can only improve his hand with 2 of the As and 2 of the 4s. PLUS, he has to take into account you may have a bigger A.

BUT...in a 1/2 NL game how many opponents actually use this thought process? Would the majority of players in a 1/2 NL game think 'I have an ACE and its only $15...this is NO LIMIT POKER...like on TV...I call'?

If you hit your hand GREAT! If not you KNOW you were betting correctly for your opponent to fold. WILL HE???

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I'm lost with this example. Doesn't villian have the best hand? Why does he need to improve? The real question is if you continuation bet$15 and he check raises to $100 (into the $30 pot). Now what does hero do?Do you still put him on weak Ace? Are you getting correct odds to call? Push?

In your example I think it might be correct for villian to check call since your range of hands could be great and you could have a lot of outs and he doesn't want to get involved in a big pot. It's a WA/WB situation. Not saying this is a good way to play but if you put yourself in this situation it might be the best way to play it out.

[JABoyd]

My question isn't about that SPECIFIC example. The example is used to illustrate the question in the original posting about pot odds. I'll post a 'better example' for those of you who seemed confused about the question in the original posting.