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#11
11-06-2007, 08:35 PM
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Re: I needs a flops plan.
i hate calling the 3bet pf when deep and oop almost as much as i hate open shoving. 4bet or fold yo
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#12
11-06-2007, 08:38 PM
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Re: I needs a flops plan.
KeanuReaver, do you ever flat call a 3bet OOP ?
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#13
11-06-2007, 08:40 PM
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Re: I needs a flops plan.
very very very rarely
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#15
11-06-2007, 09:15 PM
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Re: I needs a flops plan.
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i prob fold pre and c/f this flop. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] what range are you flatting here? And what are you 4-betting pre?
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#16
11-06-2007, 09:43 PM
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Re: I needs a flops plan.
Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter BB: $197.40 UTG: $211.60 BTN: $41 Hero (SB): $197.40 Pre-Flop: A  Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)UTG folds, BTN calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $16</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $11 Flop: ($33) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $21</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $59</font>, <font color="green">Hero insta ……..</font>
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#17
11-06-2007, 09:51 PM
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Re: I needs a flops plan.
Folds.
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#18
11-06-2007, 10:02 PM
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Re: I needs a flops plan.
Preflop 4-bet seems really bad to me unless there is some serious history. We are basically bluffing, and hate it when we get action.
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#20
11-06-2007, 11:15 PM
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Re: I needs a flops plan.
Honestly I just fold pre. 4betting AQo deep and out of position is a recipe for disaster as you turn it into a complete bluff. As played I think you can c/c flop and see what he does on the turn. Lots of his range like TT-QQ without a spade is shutting down on the turn and you may get a free card or you can lead out depending on the card and maybe take it down there. Checkraising the flop isn't great because he's likely to be suspicious and have trouble releasing anything and you just may get shoved on and make a big mistake.
In summary, fold pre. If not, c/c this flop and re-evaluate on turn.
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