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Old 11-06-2007, 04:02 PM
KeanuReaver KeanuReaver is offline
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Default Re: 100NL TT gets donkbet twice

raising the flop is very very good. his line is really strange though, im leaning towards fold
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: 100NL TT gets donkbet twice

yeah, you can fold now...and raise more on flop if you're going to raise.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: 100NL TT gets donkbet twice

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Call flop.

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because?

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If he has junk, why would you want to raise? If he has a fd he might push.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: 100NL TT gets donkbet twice

Typically when people donkbet with a flush draw, if you raise they will not bet out the turn after calling the flop. That said i think folding on the turn is fine thinking that if he is donkbetting you will get his money eventually. I am not in favor of the raise on the flop just because most bad players will call with the draw or the queen so you accomplish nothing. So either raise bigger on flop and if he takes same line fold turn cause he has weak Q.

This brings up a interesting play i have seen made before. Fish donkbets out really small into the raiser with set on a board of H-H-x, gets raised and calls. On turn the fish donkbets out again and gets put all-in or raised big. I dont think this is what happened to you, but i have seen the play before.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: 100NL TT gets donkbet twice

i just call flop usually, as played, give up
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: 100NL TT gets donkbet twice

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Call flop.

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[/ QUOTE ] If he has junk, why would you want to raise? If he has a fd he might push.

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Yeah, I prefer a raise here if villain min bets or something. Then his range is weighted heavily towards draws and these guys never min bet/3 bet draws, they always call. When villain makes a real bet there is a decent chance that he is b/3b with a draw.
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:40 AM
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Default Re: 100NL TT gets donkbet twice

you charge him for hsi draw, that is what you accomplish. Bu I agree there is a difference between a smallish donkbet and donkbet the size of my cbet.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: 100NL TT gets donkbet twice

Turn fold is fine. Villian doesn't like 3betting here because it scares you out of the pot. Instead he donks his set or TPTK on the turn.

Btw vs a 17/10 i dont like 3betting the flop. You have a smallish FE and the pot is growing way to big on turn with a marginal holding. I'll go with the flop float en probably take a stab at it at the turn when he checks or i fold due a 2nd barrel.
But vs a 58/17/2 i raise flop all day.
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