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Old 11-02-2007, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: Another easy one

I stack off I think. I think you'll see hearts/draws/Kx/dumbly played TT enough.
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: Another easy one

Doubt I see a 23/6 calling $32 more with KJ or worse kings preflop. I think he's much more likely to play pocket pairs here than he is a suited connector.

And if I'm folding KQ then AK is by no means a snapcall, all that changes is that you chop with AK now which isn't even a huge part of his range.
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:38 PM
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Doubt I see a 23/6 calling $32 more with KJ or worse kings preflop. I think he's much more likely to play pocket pairs here than he is a suited connector.

And if I'm folding KQ then AK is by no means a snapcall, all that changes is that you chop with AK now which isn't even a huge part of his range.

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Old 11-02-2007, 08:41 PM
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Hi Fonkey,

I feel like you're trying to make some kind of point given the selection of my post that you chose to bold, yet I'm still pretty sure that I'm right about that selection. Care to elaborate on any reason why you disagree that someone who plays <1/4 of their hands preflop isn't suddenly going to put in 1/5th of their stack with KJ when they don't even have the initiative?

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Old 11-02-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: Another easy one

i dont think KJ is realistic. still, i dont think its an 'easy fold'.
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:46 PM
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Hi Fonkey,

I feel like you're trying to make some kind of point given the selection of my post that you chose to bold, yet I'm still pretty sure that I'm right about that selection. Care to elaborate on any reason why you disagree that someone who plays <1/4 of their hands preflop isn't suddenly going to put in 1/5th of their stack with KJ when they don't even have the initiative?

Yours truly,
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Goofy, conclusively saying what a 23/6 does or doesn't do preflop seems counterintuitive.
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:50 PM
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Why? You can make pretty solid guesses about people's ranges based on preflop stats.

The only reason I even pointed that out was to discount weaker K's from his range, and tbh it doesn't even really matter cause if he even gets this far with KJ he probably isn't check-raising it on the flop. The only hand I think he can have that I like getting it in with is what orange suggested, a badly played TT type hand.
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Old 11-02-2007, 09:07 PM
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Default Re: Another easy one

Hi! We have tp2k in a 3 bet pot! I believe this is where I would yell at the computer screen GAMBOL and shove! Cuz you don't make TP2K very often!
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Old 11-02-2007, 09:21 PM
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Default Re: Another easy one

well were 22/15, that pretty much says jackshit lol. Also lol@23/6 not calling with KJ here. that 23 thingy actually tells us KJ is in his range, wether he will call this raise with that, we dont know. But i stack off here.
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Old 11-02-2007, 10:21 PM
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Default Re: Another easy one

Hm, so it turns out this is 2/4 and I thought it was 1/2. Oops! That changes preflop ranges dramatically obviously.

However, it also means that they're deeper than I thought...I don't know, tough spot.
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