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Old 10-29-2007, 05:09 PM
effang effang is offline
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Default Re: NL100: QQ facing 3bet on flop

this is jpette?

just 3/bet pre. or call his flop 3/bet then call the turn shove.
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: NL100: QQ facing 3bet on flop

Thanks for the input. So here's the hand as played. I expected his range to be much bigger than premium hands for the raise over the limpers, and I didn't want him to get away. I didn't expect any limpers to come along, since they'd been folding behind this move previously. I guess by not 3betting, I gave him a chance to catch up, but I was hoping he would undervalue my hand. When he leads into me on the flop, I don't give him much credit, based on his stats (TAF>8). I'm not sure what I was hoping for with the 4-bet AI, and probably wouldn't do it again, since when he started thinking about it, I found I was rooting for a fold. I'll have to think about it some more.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($38.35)
SB ($200.50)
BB ($54.40)
UTG ($73.45)
UTG+1 ($149.10)
MP1 ($134.95)
MP2 ($135.50)
Hero ($140.60)
CO ($41.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $6, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG folds, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($15.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $11</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $55</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $134.6</font>, MP2 calls $74.50 (All-In).

Turn: ($274.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($274.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $274.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP2 has Js Jc (one pair, jacks).
Hero has Qs Qd (one pair, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $279.60. </font>
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: NL100: QQ facing 3bet on flop

3 bet preflop. As played, seems like a fold, he'd have to be doing this with JJ/TT pretty goddamn often for us to show a profit continuing.
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: NL100: QQ facing 3bet on flop

You got lucky, IMO.
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: NL100: QQ facing 3bet on flop

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this is jpette?

just 3/bet pre. or call his flop 3/bet then call the turn shove.

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omg if it is then its a mandatory 3bet. This guys loves stacking off in 3bet pots on bluffs and with any pair.
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:16 PM
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Default Re: NL100: QQ facing 3bet on flop

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I'm not sure what I was hoping for with the 4-bet AI, and probably wouldn't do it again, since when he started thinking about it, I found I was rooting for a fold.

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Yep, turning QQ into a bluff = BAD.

You were lucky he had the bottom of his range.
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Old 10-30-2007, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: NL100: QQ facing 3bet on flop

so...

was this Jpette???
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Old 10-30-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: NL100: QQ facing 3bet on flop

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so...

was this Jpette???

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Sorry, no. I've never seen that name at one of my tables, just checked my PT db.
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