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Old 10-27-2007, 07:39 PM
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eh? I'm not sure what you're saying. if my logic's wrong just correct me, I'm still drunk/hungover from last night.

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The definition you're using for force is ridiculous. First of all, it's the definition of the verb not the noun, and second, it's a ludicrously broad interpretation. (Indeed, no court would ever use your interpretation because your interpretation would render the law unconstitutional.) A fairer reading would read "force" as "strength or power exerted upon an object; physical coercion; violence: to use force to open the window; to use force on a person."

Also, what does this law even do? The quote is just a definition.

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yea you're right about the definition, I pulled it from a blog; but on the same note, force isn't defined in this bill. soooo who's to say what the actual definition is..?
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Old 10-27-2007, 07:59 PM
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(Indeed, no court would ever use your interpretation because your interpretation would render the law unconstitutional.)

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it took 10 years for domestic violence defendants to get the US supreme court to strike down laws that forbid them to cross examine the "victim". often the victim would not even show up in court or testify, and the police report (with the victims story) would be admissable in court, as well as the police officers testimony of how they thought the victim felt.
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:08 PM
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No Vote TX-14 Paul, Ronald [R]
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:30 PM
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No Vote TX-14 Paul, Ronald [R]

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heh, probably knew it was gonna pass.
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:32 PM
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but

Nay OH-10 Kucinich, Dennis [D]
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:46 PM
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dailyPAUL discussion on this

-makes some scary points
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:43 PM
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So I actually got around to reading this bill. How can this be a "thought crime" bill when it doesn't even define any crimes?
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Old 10-27-2007, 11:08 PM
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It's not in effect yet,

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Just what will it do when it takes effect? You don't have the slightest idea!

You bother to read the bill? Of course not!

Please explain, what does the bill do? What do you think it does?
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:52 AM
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wow, people on the internet can be giant deutsch bags.
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:01 AM
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So when this goes into effect, the entire government will disband, right?
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