So I put 20 dollars on Pokerstars today

[Bluegrassplayer]

Hmmm not at the games which I play at, all the donks get filtered out. Maybe if there were a casino around here it would be true, but when I got online earlier it was like I was playing with people who just picked up a deck of cards for the first time.

[Artsemis]

Ahh I assumed you was talking about a casino. That may very well be true then.

[futuredoc85]

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Hmmm not at the games which I play at, all the donks get filtered out. Maybe if there were a casino around here it would be true, but when I got online earlier it was like I was playing with people who just picked up a deck of cards for the first time.

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ya in vegas casinors id say 5/10 live is about as tough to beat as .5/1 online

[Mike Kelley]

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As I said my bankroll is much more than 20 buy ins

I'm just wondering if I need to prepare myself for huge variances online, the beats I took that took me down seem pretty unbelievable to me, atleast from how I'm used to playing live.

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You are an awesome gimmick account Bluegrass. Those usually go in BBV though.
If a thread gets locked that typically means you shouldn't post it in another strat forum.

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[too eazy]

bluegrass.

denial runs the industry.

that is all.

[MrBump]

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Got it up to 100 then lost it.

Is this just expected to happen online? Should I cash out of my table whenever I get up to a certain amount to stop the suck outs from ruining my "bankroll"?

I don't really see a point of pointing in the recommended 20 buy ins seeing as how my debit card and poker stash are essentially the same thing.

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This makes no sense.

You claim to be a winning live player at $200 NL You say you practice good BR management, so your bankroll is at least $4000 right ?

So why do you credit your account with just $20 ? And if you understand / practice BR management why are you so surprised that you lost your bankroll when playing above your bankroll ?

[futuredoc85]

$1k is a decent BR for 1/2 live, anything >$2k is prob overkill. games are so soft and so passive that there is very little variance

[Cry Me A River]

There's some stuff about running bad in the n00b thread:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post12650656

Including links to other big threads on variance, running bad, etc.



Online players are much, much better than live players at the same stakes. There are a number of reasons why:

1 - Live, the lowest stakes are $1/$2 NL. Online, the lowest stakes are $.01/$.02 NL. So online the worst players are playing $.01/$.02 NL. Live they're playing $1/$2 NL. Online, $.01/$.02 NL is SIX levels below $1/$2 NL.
2 - Getting into a live game is far more casual than an online game. Live games often have inexperienced players stumble into the game on their way from the blackjack tables to the slots. Online you need to download and install the software, register an account and figure out a way to deposit. Online takes a far greater level of dedication JUST TO GET STARTED.
3 - When a player wants to make more money live, he moves up in stakes. Online, he multi-tables. In this way online players are able to put much more money in play while limiting their exposure in any one hand and avoid playing with better players. Online $.5/$1 NL players can make a nice living out of multi-tabling. There aren't very many live $1/$2 NL pros.
4 - No HUDs or Pokertracker live.
5 - Online players see many more hands per hour, particularly if they multi-table. More hands per hour equals more experience equals better play.
6 - Free alcohol in casinos.

[vaughn345]

7 - live players get bored and can be more attached to a hand when they finally get one.

[pattay]

one time i had a bad beat and i lost my whole buy-in, it sucked. idk if im gonna keep playing this online crap either bluegrass, the suckouts are ridiculous and its probably rigged