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Old 10-27-2007, 08:42 AM
luvetoholdem luvetoholdem is offline
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Id fold, I would think you are drawing very thin. If he has the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] you are dead. I wouldnt go in just b/c you have a straight flush draw. I think you will hardly ever win against an all in here.
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:50 AM
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Edit: Whoops. misread.
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:52 AM
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:56 AM
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Id fold, I would think you are drawing very thin. If he has the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] you are dead. I wouldnt go in just b/c you have a straight flush draw. I think you will hardly ever win against an all in here.

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Ummmm... no:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

6,930 games 0.005 secs 1,386,000 games/sec

Board: 5d 4d 3d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 57.042% 56.52% 00.52% 3917 36.00 { AcAd, AdAh, AdAs, AdKd, AdKc, AdKh, AdKs }
Hand 1: 42.958% 42.44% 00.52% 2941 36.00 { 6d6s }

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We dont have 66
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:08 AM
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Default Re: I cant think of a catchy title...

just shove
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:47 AM
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shoving this flop is really really bad. yeah we ahve a combo draw but villain will never fold an overpair with a diamond which has huge equity vs us and he will prob never fold and overpair w/o a diamond either which we are only flipping against.
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:29 PM
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I've stacked big pairs way too many times to fold this pf to a min-raise. The implied odds are just too insane to pass here, just pray for 2p+ on the flop.
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:14 PM
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I've stacked big pairs way too many times to fold this pf to a min-raise. The implied odds are just too insane to pass here, just pray for 2p+ on the flop.

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Um, you have less than $90 behind. How often do you think you hit the flop hard AND you are ahead AND he pays off AND doesn't hit his 30% redraw? Not often enough IMHO.
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:17 PM
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Preflop is so so so bad.
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:23 PM
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I've stacked big pairs way too many times to fold this pf to a min-raise. The implied odds are just too insane to pass here, just pray for 2p+ on the flop.

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Um, you have less than $90 behind. How often do you think you hit the flop hard AND you are ahead AND he pays off AND doesn't hit his 30% redraw? Not often enough IMHO.

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ur calling 5 into about 115 if u include implied odds, u hit two pair plus i think something like 1 in 12 (not completely sure though), obv he doesnt always have an overpair but he usually will have a hand hes stacking and if we start saying that he doesnt always have an overpair then we stop having to flop at least 2pair - 1 pair is good and sometimes we will outplay him - its one or the other. I think not calling a min raise from a fish in position with a small hand like this is a leak. That 30%redraw, is that only this flop ur saying, cause overpairs only have like 25% redraw against two pair, but u could even have better than 2pair.
I dont mind ur raise on flop but i might go with less variance and flat it, ur a 55-45 favourite against overpairs without a diamond (which r more numerous) and a 30-70 dog against overpairs with a diamond, so pokerstove his range and ull know whether or not to shove, im too lazy to do it right now
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