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Old 10-22-2007, 01:02 PM
Schmitty 87 Schmitty 87 is offline
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Default Re: How many on here are Deists??

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Defining god as 'that which is unknowable and which is "outside" the universe' is pretty useless. Deism is useless. Deism is atheism, if one thinks about it.

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Not necessarily. Some theologians view God as infinite in the sense that he/it/whatever is undefinable and cannot even be said to exist.
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: How many on here are Deists??

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Defining god as 'that which is unknowable and which is "outside" the universe' is pretty useless. Deism is useless. Deism is atheism, if one thinks about it.

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Except that in Deism, their is a belief in God, and that by your good works in life, your after life is determine by them, whatever that afterlife may be......
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Old 10-22-2007, 04:15 PM
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Default Re: How many on here are Deists??

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Defining god as 'that which is unknowable and which is "outside" the universe' is pretty useless. Deism is useless. Deism is atheism, if one thinks about it.

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Define "think".
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Old 10-22-2007, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: How many on here are Deists??

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Defining god as 'that which is unknowable and which is "outside" the universe' is pretty useless. Deism is useless. Deism is atheism, if one thinks about it.

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Define "think".

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Define "Define"
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: How many on here are Deists??

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Rejection of all religions based on books that claim to contain the revealed word of God.

Rejection of reports of miracles, prophecies and religious "mysteries".

Rejection of the Genesis account of creation and the doctrine of original sin, along with all similar beliefs.

Rejection of Judaism, Christianity, Islam and other religious beliefs.

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God exists and created the universe.

God wants human beings to behave morally.

Human beings have souls that survive death; that is, there is an afterlife.

In the afterlife, God will reward moral behavior and punish immoral behavior."

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Old 10-22-2007, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: How many on here are Deists??

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Rejection of all religions based on books that claim to contain the revealed word of God.

Rejection of reports of miracles, prophecies and religious "mysteries".

Rejection of the Genesis account of creation and the doctrine of original sin, along with all similar beliefs.

Rejection of Judaism, Christianity, Islam and other religious beliefs.

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[img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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God exists and created the universe.

God wants human beings to behave morally.

Human beings have souls that survive death; that is, there is an afterlife.

In the afterlife, God will reward moral behavior and punish immoral behavior."

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QFT
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Old 10-22-2007, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: How many on here are Deists??

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Defining god as 'that which is unknowable and which is "outside" the universe' is pretty useless. Deism is useless. Deism is atheism, if one thinks about it.

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Not necessarily. Some theologians view God as infinite in the sense that he/it/whatever is undefinable and cannot even be said to exist.

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He says it's useless, you say that it's undefinable and cannot be even said to exist.

I think we need to define useless.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:41 PM
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I thought the only reason for being a deist was to join the freemasons. (j/k)

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that would be my main motivation for becoming a deist, very serious. Being a mason could be very lucrative.
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: How many on here are Deists??

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Defining god as 'that which is unknowable and which is "outside" the universe' is pretty useless. Deism is useless. Deism is atheism, if one thinks about it.

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Not necessarily. Some theologians view God as infinite in the sense that he/it/whatever is undefinable and cannot even be said to exist.

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Defining a concept as undefinable is not knowledge and only a broken mind would resort to such a thing.
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Old 10-23-2007, 10:18 AM
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Default Re: How many on here are Deists??

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Defining god as 'that which is unknowable and which is "outside" the universe' is pretty useless. Deism is useless. Deism is atheism, if one thinks about it.

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Not necessarily. Some theologians view God as infinite in the sense that he/it/whatever is undefinable and cannot even be said to exist.

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Defining a concept as undefinable is not knowledge and only a broken mind would resort to such a thing.

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I don't know what to say except that some people disagree with you. And it's not really an issue of knowledge as typically understood.
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