J6c 3/6 LHE game OTB

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On the flop I allways raise because I have a massive equity edge with 6 people in the pot.

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FYP, euro

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just call and let everyone in with their silly hands. That's better than getting HU with trips. Your equity edge can only be realized when everyone puts their dollars in. Like, you can't say "well it's a 6 way pot and I will win more than 1/6th of the time, so GOGOGOO, because when it ends up 3 ways in this spot instead of 5 ways, you just cost yourself a bunch of money.

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Did I miss something? I thought like four people had already called a flop bet when the action came to hero.

[threeducks]

Okay, not tossing in $1 for a hand on the SB and OTB with ATC is a leak - I agree - but, I hope a small one.

I figure winning 50% because the odds for the 3nd nut flush to be good is 75% - so I will lose on average 25% (as this case - he had nut flush K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]) I figure that someone with spike a set 2 outs (5%) and someone might have a weak T and catch a 5 or a T (10%) and that one of the 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] will hit and I will lose to the K or Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] - so I estimate 50%.

Not raising the river and folding to a re-raise is another leak. That is what happens when you head gets soft by repeatedly losing with good cards.

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I wouldn't even fold to a reraise on the river in this hand. Raise/call.

[threeducks]

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I wouldn't even fold to a reraise on the river in this hand. Raise/call.

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Yeah folding is dumb. It is not only me. I saw a hand between UTG and UTG+1 (I was UTG+2) - river 3rd [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] hit and UTG bet, UTG+1 raised, UTG called - UTG+1 had Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] flush and UTG had J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] flush.

[threeducks]

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I have never folded a single hand for one chip in a two-chip, three-chip structure. That there is extra blind money in the pot is all the more reason to complete with one chip.

OP, note that this doesn't commit you to calling if you complete the button and the SB or BB raises, or if you complete the SB and the BB raises.

-McGee

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During my running bad period I tend to play less blind hands to stay out of trouble. Here's why.

I am BB call a raise since there are 6 players to the flop and I have 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] - flop is 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] - turn is K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] river is 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and I lose to K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Next hand in the SB I complete 1 chip with 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Flop is 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Turn is a 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and I lose to 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

This is results oriented for sure but to lose less I need to play less hands - choose my battles more carefully when my W$WFS is 15%.

I really need to play better post flop and one way is to play less hands preflop and concentrate on post flop play.

This is where I am not playing well. I can tighten up to only quality preflop hands as outlined in SSHE tight game. Or as Ed Miller said to me [ QUOTE ]
suited face cards, suited aces >9 except limp on the button or CO with suite Ace less 9. Pocket pairs. Never cold call and raise often - and hang on tight when I hit - do not fold a good hand for one bet.

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[Aces McGee]

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This is results oriented for sure but to lose less I need to play less hands - choose my battles more carefully when my W$WFS is 15%.

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threeducks, you will never be successful at poker if you continue to think this way.

-McGee

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Nice hand. SB has been c/c'ing and then bets the deuce on the river. That's usually not a good sign. I can see a river raise, but calling behind isn't so bad under those circumstances, I think. Also I think raising the flop is usually good for buying a free card on a flush draw, but with the paired board I think you were wise to just call.

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This is results oriented for sure but to lose less I need to play less hands - choose my battles more carefully when my W$WFS is 15%.

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threeducks, you will never be successful at poker if you continue to think this way.

-McGee

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Thanks, I am trying to combat the faulty thinking and I did play these hands to the best of my ability, I bet and raised. Part of the game is mental.

My basic philosophy regarding hold'em is that I endeavor to play the best that I can and not be concerned with the outcome of each hand. Did I make the right decision? If I did then nothing that I could do about it.

How much won or lost is how well I played. In a no'foldem game the results is preordained most of the time.

Folding blinds for 1 chip is a small leak if it keeps me out of trouble.

I need to concentrate on playing well after the flop (with good cards since I need an advantage).

An expert can play more 2-card starting hands than a non-expert since the expert plays well after the flop.

An expert can play K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] OTB because he can get away for a K high flop and a non-expert can not.

[threeducks]

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Nice hand. SB has been c/c'ing and then bets the deuce on the river. That's usually not a good sign. I can see a river raise, but calling behind isn't so bad under those circumstances, I think. Also I think raising the flop is usually good for buying a free card on a flush draw, but with the paired board I think you were wise to just call.

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Thanks count. Hard to get a free card on 3/6. Also, if someone was slowplaying a 5 then they would more likely spring to action once more money was committed to the pot on the flop.

Regardless of my random thoughts about folding the blinds for $1 to stay out of trouble and not raising the river, I think that I played it well enough to past muster in most 3/6 games.

I have seen the SB play and he is careful. He would call with a flush (as he did) and check raise the turn with a FH.

[TheCount212]

Suited facecard on the button with no raises in front = limp away every time. In fact, you can limp here with a lot worse and feel good about it. Any time you get to see a flop cheaply from the button with suited or connected cards go ahead and spin the wheel.