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Old 10-22-2007, 02:29 AM
rakes.a.beach rakes.a.beach is offline
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I think this is a call. Pretty easy call though I'm a station.

Everything on the river missed, you gave him a chance to bluff, the river is a scared card. There is a lot suggesting that he's bluffing. And since you check to induce a bluff, you have to call here, right?

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i didnt check to induce a bluff, i thougt that there was a good chance i was beat, so i can check to fold y aknow.

Also, AcXc makes up at least some part of his range, this hit, as did stuff that made 2pr

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I agree that AcXc is a good part of his range. but so is T8, T9, and other combo draws. The bet is kinda big to squeeze value out of Jx from AcXc imo.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:52 AM
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Villain has Tc9c =)
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:48 AM
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I think this is a call. Pretty easy call though I'm a station.

Everything on the river missed, you gave him a chance to bluff, the river is a scared card. There is a lot suggesting that he's bluffing. And since you check to induce a bluff, you have to call here, right?

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i didnt check to induce a bluff, i thougt that there was a good chance i was beat, so i can check to fold y aknow.

Also, AcXc makes up at least some part of his range, this hit, as did stuff that made 2pr

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I agree that AcXc is a good part of his range. but so is T8, T9, and other combo draws. The bet is kinda big to squeeze value out of Jx from AcXc imo.

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T9 we lose to, i doubt he is cc with T8 or a lot of the other hands that make up the big draws here, and if he does have a big draw, isnt he raising the flop almost always. And if he can play a big draw this way, why cant he have a set.
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Old 10-22-2007, 04:18 AM
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I usually bet fold here maybe like 67
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Old 10-22-2007, 04:20 AM
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i think the turn betsize sucks unless youre planning on c/f a lot of rivers

therefore, i think you should fold now
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Old 10-22-2007, 04:23 AM
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elaborate tuba? how much would you bet?


nice river c/f op.
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Old 10-22-2007, 04:24 AM
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i think the turn betsize sucks unless youre planning on c/f a lot of rivers



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please elaborate?
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Old 10-22-2007, 04:28 AM
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nh
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Old 10-22-2007, 05:06 AM
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elaborate tuba? how much would you bet?


nice river c/f op.

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basically, if we bet this small, we give our opponent better implied odds, and hes more likely to chase the draws. if he calls a turn PSB and a scare card comes, i think most players are A) less likely to bluff, and B) more likely to have a range polarized towards made hands and less towards drawing hands, so we can feel a little safer about getting river money in.

my logic could be entirely flawed however, considering its 5am here and i havent been to bed yet.
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Old 10-22-2007, 05:09 AM
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I blocker bet this alot, same when I have AJ/AK/AQ/Acxc or JJ. But still a nasty spot.

Also as played, I think this is a call.
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