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Old 10-19-2007, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: So I 3 bet preflop with AKo...

KQ or KJ
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Old 10-19-2007, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: So I 3 bet preflop with AKo...

You have to bet. sorry.

If he folds then he would not have called your turn bet either and I dont think he is bluffing the turn ever with a hand that he wouldnt call or raise the flop with.
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Old 10-19-2007, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: So I 3 bet preflop with AKo...

Bet it again, first for protection second for value. Otherwise you are letting villan draw for free.

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Old 10-19-2007, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: So I 3 bet preflop with AKo...

At our level, we would lose so much if we mixed it up a lot like this by deceptively playing TPTK slowly.

The reason why is that almost all of our opponents are loose spazzes who call way too much and need the jaws of life to pry cards out of their hands.

Bet. Hope he calls. It's really all you can do.
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Old 10-19-2007, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: So I 3 bet preflop with AKo...

BBB - value is prime here, you are ahead way more than you are behind.
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: So I 3 bet preflop with AKo...

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I know it's a horrible idea.

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Best part of this post.
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Old 10-19-2007, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: So I 3 bet preflop with AKo...

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What hands does he hold here that you want him to "catch-up" with?


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KQ or KJ


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This winds up being a very standard, though involved, EV calc.:

A1= What % do KQ-KJ make up in his range?
A2= How often do they catch up?
A3= Do they always call down?

B1= What % are hands that would call a bet with like AK-AJ?
B2= How often does AQ-AJ overtake when given a FC?
B3= How often does AQ-AJ overtake when paid for?

C1= Is he always folding under pairs to a flop bet?
C2= What % do under pairs make?
C3= How often do they overtake when given a FC?

Do you see where this is going?
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: So I 3 bet preflop with AKo...

I think not, there is nothing substantially wrong with winning a small pot in this scenario. If you had a read on him as hyper aggressive then checkraising would be a good idea, but if he checks after you on flop, you can't really trust that you will gain a bet from him on the Turn...

so just bet to protect your hand, be happy to take down what there is in it... better than watching him turn a set or two pair and get sick in the stomach...
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: So I 3 bet preflop with AKo...

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I think not, there is nothing substantially wrong with winning a small pot in this scenario. If you had a read on him as hyper aggressive then checkraising would be a good idea, but if he checks after you on flop, you can't really trust that you will gain a bet from him on the Turn...

so just bet for value, yo, be happy to take down what there is in it... better than watching him turn a set or two pair and get sick in the stomach...

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Old 10-19-2007, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: So I 3 bet preflop with AKo...

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