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#12
10-12-2007, 05:09 PM
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Re: How often is this a bluff?
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For those saying fold. What do I do in this spot with AK? [/ QUOTE ] I probably call once and seriously consider folding if he shoves river. 
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#14
10-12-2007, 05:12 PM
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Re: How often is this a bluff?
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No offense but you need to improve your math skills. Hes going to have like 90ish left on the river and the pot will be 223+$. Do you seriously think a 15-10-3 will be bluffin here when he basically commits himself to the pot. It might sounds like a ridiculous bet beccause obv it is, it's the reason why he did it. Players like you think it's weak and call and then face a shove on the river and fold. Bad plan. just fold and wait for a better spot. calling is just terrible without any particular infos. [/ QUOTE ] Read the same.
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#15
10-12-2007, 05:14 PM
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Re: How often is this a bluff?
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ak i call turn and i call shove on river. [/ QUOTE ] how is AK any diff in this hand than TT? If AK is a call then he has be bluffing here a percentage of the time, no?
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#16
10-12-2007, 05:18 PM
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Re: How often is this a bluff?
15-10-3 bluffing with what?
Work with range here. What do you think a 15-10-3 call a 3b oop with? Just that answers the thread. The 1010 is a fold. AK i wouldve played differently anyway against that player.
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#17
10-12-2007, 05:21 PM
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Re: How often is this a bluff?
Unless your image was super nit where JJ-KK would be scared to raise you on the flop, I think I like a turn fold.
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#18
10-12-2007, 05:23 PM
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Re: How often is this a bluff?
i would call and then fold to a second bet. i really don't like to discourage people from getting minimum value on their hand against me, and i really don't like to encourage people to make cheap bluffs against me. is our hand good? probably not, but i'm not folding to that cupcake bet unless i'm just about to go to bed or something.
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#19
10-12-2007, 05:25 PM
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Re: How often is this a bluff?
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15-10-3 bluffing with what? Work with range here. What do you think a 15-10-3 call a 3b oop with? Just that answers the thread. The 1010 is a fold. AK i wouldve played differently anyway against that player. [/ QUOTE ] Ok, AK is a bad example then I guess. What about KK is that a fold? Im trying to work with a range here. He doesnt have an ace in this spot so hes either got 99 or is bluffing. If hes never bluffing then we are folding everything but AA, and 55? That's what im asking. Also to add, since checking AK type hands on this flop is prolly the best play, shouldnt he be less likely to think I have an ace since I bet and much more likely that I have a PP or some other hand and therefore be more likely to bluff this spot?
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#20
10-12-2007, 05:28 PM
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Re: How often is this a bluff?
KK would be a pretty gay spot not gonna lie. and i've no idea how id be inclined to play it. Raising turn would be terrible since he's just gonna call us with hands that totally crush us.
i guess KK would be a better spot to call turn and fold river shove.
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