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Old 10-11-2007, 08:15 PM
hamnegger hamnegger is offline
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Default Re: raise call or fold?

i shoved he folded
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: raise call or fold?

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i shoved he folded

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result oriented?...with no read this is a fold
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Old 10-12-2007, 09:49 AM
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i shoved he folded

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result oriented?...with no read this is a fold

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Old 10-12-2007, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: raise call or fold?

I fold! If Villain was deeper I could raise this and use my position. In general, people tend to call a raise/shove when they raise 1/5th of their stack. You were lucky to make a move against a weak opponent.
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:44 AM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: raise call or fold?

What are you trying to do, get everyone's chips by second break?

Fold. Yes, you WERE lucky he folded this.

Barry
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Old 10-12-2007, 11:16 AM
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Default Re: raise call or fold?

For me it is an easy fold.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:58 PM
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Default Re: raise call or fold?

Weak Ace I fold.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: raise call or fold?

This hand is close. Everyone just dismissing it as an easy fold is being silly.

Everyone saying fold,
What % of hands do you guys think CO is raising?
What % do you think call the shove?


Now put the calling range in PokerStove.
(Call % / Raise %) * [2800*(Win %) - 2575*(1 - Win%)] + [(1 - Call %) / Raise %] * 675

I'd be surprised if most COs are calling more than 1/3rd of the hands they're raising here.

I agree with a normal 3-Bet though, and fold if SB shoves.
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