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Old 10-11-2007, 01:24 PM
tubasteve tubasteve is offline
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Default Re: AT - I 3-bet a lagtard and flop TPMK

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The lighter 3 bets get so much value from the villan folding pf, and with this guy it probably doesn't happen much.

I guess what i'm saying is i'd much rather 3 bet a 25/20 here than a 43/27, does anyone else feel this way?

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the 3-bet is largely for value in this situation. this guy isnt the same as other players where if i 3-bet him, hes folding everything but AQ+ and pocket pairs.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: AT - I 3-bet a lagtard and flop TPMK

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The lighter 3 bets get so much value from the villan folding pf, and with this guy it probably doesn't happen much.

I guess what i'm saying is i'd much rather 3 bet a 25/20 here than a 43/27, does anyone else feel this way?

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I see what you are saying. Both people are good to 3 bet vs. but what is more important is their likelyhood that they will call down with any pair. Their calling habits are much more important IMO
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: AT - I 3-bet a lagtard and flop TPMK

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the 3-bet is largely for value in this situation. this guy isnt the same as other players where if i 3-bet him, hes folding everything but AQ+ and pocket pairs.

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Given his stats and this read, hand is played perfectly imo
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:29 PM
SnglMaltScotch SnglMaltScotch is offline
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Default Re: AT - I 3-bet a lagtard and flop TPMK

I don't 3 bet LagTards with ATo OOP. It puts you in exactly this position with no idea what to do. You have optimal position on him almost always. There will be much better places to put your money in against him.

As for the hand, I think you played it fine.

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Old 10-11-2007, 01:32 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: AT - I 3-bet a lagtard and flop TPMK

Hate preflop vs someone who is going to call with position and a lot and [censored] about with you on a lot of flops.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:36 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: AT - I 3-bet a lagtard and flop TPMK

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Hate preflop vs someone who is going to call with position and a lot and [censored] about with you on a lot of flops.

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Me too.

But given you did and flopped TP, this is the correct way to play it.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:38 PM
Unknown Soldier Unknown Soldier is offline
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Default Re: AT - I 3-bet a lagtard and flop TPMK

nothing wrong with cold calling pf, why do you hate it?

as played std, def dont fold anywehre
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:40 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: AT - I 3-bet a lagtard and flop TPMK

Yah srsly, calling preflop is fine and anyone who says ZOMG RIO is dumb, because we flop a top pair that has him dominated a bunch of the time.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: AT - I 3-bet a lagtard and flop TPMK

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nothing wrong with cold calling pf, why do you hate it?

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bc it could just be a steal.
I like how he played it here. Against an aggro dodnk, I think he's way ahead and he's getting it in on the turn. nh sir

edit: I don't hate it, I just don't like it.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:52 PM
tarheeljks tarheeljks is offline
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Default Re: AT - I 3-bet a lagtard and flop TPMK

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Hate preflop vs someone who is going to call with position and a lot and [censored] about with you on a lot of flops.

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Me too.

But given you did and flopped TP, this is the correct way to play it.

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cold calling just seems gross since we are going to be c/f-ing a lot of the time.

edit: point taken though
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