Doing well in multiple B&Ms; Poor in one

[Michael Davis]

Based on your posts here you're running good at three locations.

-Michael

[El_Hombre_Grande]

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sample size isn't the issue here.

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Live, its always an issue. 30 hands an hour, and you are dividing your time between 4 venues? Do some math and let me know when you've got 100 K at that casino. I suppose you could start the wondering at 10k, but the answer would still be "most likely variance."

In the meantime, look for obvious explanations --better opponents, larger rake, etc. I would take a look at some of the threads here about winrate and the "long run"; I suspect from your post you have some incorrect assumptions.

[Lucere]

Maybe sample size is more of an issue than I thought, though I'm between 30 and 40K hands for the place in question.

As for the poster who asked when the money goes in, it typically is in either pre-flop or on the flop. The problem is it is mostly against bad players who are already shortstacked from previous hands, and if I have, for example, AK, and the flop comes A J 6 rainbow, and a guy to act in front of me goes all in for about 1/2 - 2/3 the size of the pot, I'm calling there every time. This type of scenario happens a lot at this place (players are always shortstacked and then min-rebuying), and more times than not, they have hands like J 9, and turn or river a 9. Over the course of a session (only 2 or 3 times), I'm down at least one buy in. This type of thing happens significantly less at the other places, which makes me think it's the players.

If there is some sort of adjustment I'm not making for this kind of play, I'd love to know about it. Because the only thing I can see to do differently would be to fold to their all in bets when I know I have the best of it. In the meantime, I'll check the other threads on winrate, etc, as suggested by the last poster to see if there is anything I'm missing.

[buckyb88]

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Maybe sample size is more of an issue than I thought, though I'm between 30 and 40K hands for the place in question.

As for the poster who asked when the money goes in, it typically is in either pre-flop or on the flop. The problem is it is mostly against bad players who are already shortstacked from previous hands, and if I have, for example, AK, and the flop comes A J 6 rainbow, and a guy to act in front of me goes all in for about 1/2 - 2/3 the size of the pot, I'm calling there every time. This type of scenario happens a lot at this place (players are always shortstacked and then min-rebuying), and more times than not, they have hands like J 9, and turn or river a 9.

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Rigged LDO

[justscott]

40k hands at 30 hands an hour =1333 hours, or 55 straight days, or 166 days of 8 hour sessions.

You should be killing that place.

[Lucere]

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40k hands at 30 hands an hour =1333 hours, or 55 straight days, or 166 days of 8 hour sessions.

You should be killing that place.

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Well, I'm not. That's the issue.

[AngusThermopyle]

1. Quality of opponents. Maybe Club X has better players.
2. Styles of opponents. Maybe you have subtle problems with the style of play at Club X.
3. Distractions in Club X (TV's, waitresses) or other things (it is a longer drive, etc) that prevent you from playing your "A game"

[grdred944]

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1. Quality of opponents. Maybe Club X has better players.
2. Styles of opponents. Maybe you have subtle problems with the style of play at Club X.
3. Distractions in Club X (TV's, waitresses) or other things (it is a longer drive, etc) that prevent you from playing your "A game"

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Bingo! Excellent answer. It really does come down to this. Sundays during football season are my worst days thanks to #3 above. Now that I have stopped making sure my seat faces the TV I've improved but still, distractions will get you everytime.

[SellingtheDrama]

Don't gamble seriously (ie try to play good poker) if there's that big a distraction.

It's hard enough playing profitable poker in a neutral environment...adding something like that is going to kill your EV.

[ChuckyB]

In "Ace on the River" Barry Greenstein suggests staying away from the place you do poorly in. It may be superstition. But if it's in your head, it's real. And it will cost you money.