$2/4 NL AQ on button

[UK Raz]

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i really dislike the re-raise too , no need for it....

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I wondered when youd pipe up, fool [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[UK Raz]

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i really dislike the reraise here preflop ... both these guys are lags so why not just calling since you know their raising range is large then if you hit an A on the flop play it hard

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I raised to pick up the ~$40 already out there, or play a big pot, in position with what i expect to be the best hand most of the time. My image is tight (maybe 16/12) and most of the time i expect the raiser to fold to me. If he calls im often infront with position, if he raises i can bow out gracefully. The CO i really wasnt worried about. I figured he was calling in position with a mediocre hand. (An assumption that later bit me right in the ass)

[UK Raz]

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check/fold the flop.

if you assume he's not cold calling a 3bet w/ less than AK, he probably has a decent pair. that is like the least scary flop in the world for a pair so he's not gonna let it go and your betting basically to bluff him off AK. if you think you can get him to fold a pair then you have to make up your mind on the flop and commit to firing 2 or 3 barrels to make that happen which is usually a pretty bad idea w/out a decent read. so yeah, flop bet sucks unless ur planning on putting more pressure on him later in the hand

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Yea im getting there now. I had him on a pair, 77-TT was my guess. Even if i knew he had an unimproved mid pair im not mentally ready yet to risk my stack trying to move him off it, so check/fold is my only choice on that board. I see now that my flop bet alone was a waste of money, given the range i had him on.

I love this forum btw, dunno how i managed without it for so long!

[HoldEmNewby]

Stacks????

Preflop raise is way too small make something between 64-70.

Villain calls a raise, and then a reraise: his range is mostly pairs and AK,AA-66 with 99-88 being the most likely of his holdings as he'd usually 3bet AA-TT,AK and usually fold 77-66 to the reraise. So now that you've got him on a range do you really think double barreling this turn is a sound idea? He either has a set or an overpair and no one folds overpairs in a 3bet pot. I dislike a turn bet, and barring a read i'd say your flop cbet is -EV.

[pokerhat]

this is an excellent structured answer , both stacks were $400 btw
Id be interested to know if you would have 3 bet pf and do you routinely in these circumstances