($24) Unraised JJ on A-high flop. Weird line check

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Whats the point of all this calling post flop if we called JJ preflop definately looking for set or <J high board? Ace - fold. easy. Or raise preflop and play JJ normally..

[Dalek]

I think Jacks are a definite raise hear. If your giving the BB a free flop then any overcard is a danger. AJ+/10s+ should be raised most of the time.

On the flop i think you can lay back and re-raise trying to represent a stronger ace and to combat a semi-bluff or you can fold. This would depend on a read though. You could call to see what happens on the turn and re-evaluate if the guy often made weak c-bets.

On the turn i would fold. He seems like a fish with an Ace that hopes you won't fold. Also fold the river.

[AMT]

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So we loose 50% of the time 200 chips and win 50% 200 chips. The chips we earn arn't that valuable as the chips we loose, so this is a -EV play..., right??

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Open pf on the real, you're missing out on value by just limping.

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where are you getting the 50%? we might need to go over this thread in our next session [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] also, rex is right, keep all streets and changing %s in mind throughout the hand, rarely in l1 or l2 is it going to be a 1 street decision.

OP,

raise PF for sure. id probably play it the same way you did on the flop and turn and may fold the river.

[BicVicTheQuick]

mehhh, had 3 hours of sleep this night so just forget my comments!!!!