Turning a combo draw OOP...

[Daddy Warbucks]

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(Jay's UTG opening range sounds about right for a CO call for a 28vpip)

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No I meant I would be raising all those hands if I was hero in the hand.

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I know? Which part of what i said didn't imply that?

[Jay Riall]

'sounds about right for a CO call for a 28vpip'? Waht do you mean?

[Daddy Warbucks]

That's in the range of hands a 28/14 would call with from the CO.

[Jay Riall]

Yeah, there are a few more offsuit combos in his hand also I think.

[Daddy Warbucks]

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A hand with a 7 in it is such a small part of his range that I'm not even worrying about that. We have a good number of outs against anything he's holding, and a ton of fold equity vs. his range.

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I'm not saying that he holds a 7, i'm saying that he can't really push with worse. So if you do bet turn and he pushes, you can figure to be about a 2.5:1 dog. So its pot odds really.

[terp]

check turn, shove.

will do wonders for future encounters; won't be terrible even if called.

[Reni]

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check turn, shove.

will do wonders for future encounters; won't be terrible even if called.

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More importantly though, will rarely be called.

[Noam Chomsky]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. If you're playing the guy a lot it really doesn't matter if he calls, c/r all in here will both discourage him from being so obnoxious in position and set up some very profitable situations down the road.

[Nick Royale]

I'm quite suprised by the respones in this thead. I'm with terp on check/shove. Seems like a good spot given history.

[Bulletproof Monk]

bet exactly $17 so you get fold equity when you shove over his raise