NLCASH 100 - Hero faces reraise but flops quads

[TNixon]

I played a hand almost exactly like this playing $1-$2NL live in Wendover this past weekend, and made a very similar mistake.

I didn't min-reraise, but I was in against a very drunk very aggro opponent (superdonk aggro even, earlier in the night he had bet like a maniac with something like 74 that completely missed the board). I flopped quad nines, and check-raised him out of the pot on the turn on a pretty drawy board (997J or something like that, with 2 of one suit).

As soon as he folded, I felt like a complete donktard. Either he had a pair or some sort of draw and felt I was pricing him out with trip nines (it would have been tough for him to put me on less than a 9, since I had very rarely got out of line, and never had to showdown any of the few times I didn't have what I was representing), or he had absolutely nothing, and I took away his opportunity to bluff at the river (which likely would have been all-in).

Oops.

[MasterLJ]

A similar hand:

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 2 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

BB: $245.50
Hero (SB): $551.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $22.00</font>, Hero calls $16.00

Flop: ($44) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $30.00</font>, Hero calls $30.00

Turn: ($104) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $80.00</font>, Hero calls $80.00

River: ($264) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets all-in for $113.50</font>, Hero calls $113.50

Pot Size: $491.00 ($0.50 Rake)

BB had A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ([Ad Kd] a pair of Sixes) and LOST (-$245.50)
Hero had 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (four of a kind, Sixes) and WON (+$245.00)

[creedofhubris]

1) this board is ridiculously dry

2) if you raise the river, that's a strong line, but it's going to be very hard for him to put you on a deuce, so he's going to have to pay you off in general with his big pairs anyway, and probably also a rivered high pair. Besides, any bet on the river by him commits him, and you're going to have less than a PSB left, so it's hard to imagine him folding even if he checks if he has a decent hand.

= call turn and wait til river to get in.

Basically, you want to maximize value vs. unpaired big cards here.

You're already going to get allin vs. a big pair on the river, so you don't need to worry about extracting, but no pair is a big part of his range so you need to consider how to play vs. that.

[pokerpal500]

You don't know what his 3-bet range is so I think it is better to just keep on calling... against an unknown his 3-bet range is probably AQs/AK TT-AA. With that flop and turn your opponent is going to be betting very very hard especially at 100nl. At 100nl, at least most of the time, the villain will want to get their money in as fast as possible if they have TT-AA on that sort of board. It looks like you got unlucky and you were playing a tight opponent who most likely had AK/AQ. Better to just call and hope that he hits his A/K/Q or tries to fire the 3rd bullet to bluff you out.

[abcjnich]

Either just call flop and turn or raise flop. Ask yourself what you are trying to represent (a hand that is of course not quads or trips) that can get the most value out of his range.

[xSCWx]

I'm not sure I could represent trips or quads if I tried, but with how quickly he folded I could have probably represented pocket 3's and had the same result.

I should have let him keep firing, but I ended up stacking him in the end anyways. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[MasterLJ]

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I'm not sure I could represent trips or quads if I tried, but with how quickly he folded I could have probably represented pocket 3's and had the same result.

I should have let him keep firing, but I ended up stacking him in the end anyways. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

The beauty of heads up... I call them "mistake erasers".

I know it looks super super strong, but calling is best. Throw in some hollywood on the turn to sell that you are drawing as best you can and pray he bets on the river. I know we are all trying to look for different ways to improve our game, but I'm not sure this is an area that you can do much improving in since you have the deck nearly crippled.

[xSCWx]

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I know it looks super super strong, but calling is best.

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I figure pretty much anything besides folding looks strong, but after he quickly folded, I realized that I made probably the strongest looking play possible.

My thought process was:

Set value.
QUAD VALUE BABY, SLOWWWW ROLLLLL
min raise for va..... [censored]

[KakiTee]

when did the opposite of slowplaying become min raising?