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Old 09-29-2007, 10:21 PM
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Default Re: Tricky spot w/ OP + OESD

what do you mean by XX? 56 is a pair+oesd definitely good enough to lead for a random villain and 45 is the straight.
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Old 09-29-2007, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: Tricky spot w/ OP + OESD

This hand is giving me a headache. All these different stacksizes and people being all in left and right. Meh, I fold.
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Old 09-29-2007, 10:25 PM
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This hand is giving me a headache. All these different stacksizes and people being all in left and right. Meh, I fold.

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Best reasoning I've ever heard. TBH that's what I thought would be the response for this hand [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 09-29-2007, 10:56 PM
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what do you mean by XX? 56 is a pair+oesd definitely good enough to lead for a random villain and 45 is the straight.

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I was referring to "or he is just [censored] around and will fold after I shove."

Nick Royale's response was pretty much my initial reaction, too, by the way. This is one of those spots where, at the table, I would just have to take a guess as to what the best play was.
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Old 09-29-2007, 11:07 PM
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Nick Royale's response was pretty much my initial reaction, too, by the way. This is one of those spots where, at the table, I would just have to take a guess as to what the best play was.

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I think this spot is close, but coming up with ranges for all these players, estimating how often you're drawing dead, drawing to split pot, are already ahead, have 10 outs etc and then taking the different stacksizes into consideration is a pain in the ass [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Without more info pushing can't be that bad, but just of the top of my head I think folding is better.
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: Tricky spot w/ OP + OESD

Thank you for the response!
I am definitely on the line with what you Nicks are saying, and I thought about it for 15 secs then folded. They did have all types of hands that is irrelevant but my straight outs were good.
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