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Old 09-26-2007, 06:46 AM
Trogdor! Trogdor! is offline
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Default Re: NL25 KJ

on the turn why are we betting?

we are either

1. trying to get value out of weaker hands
2. trying to make better hands fold

betting turn does neither bar a club draw
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:20 AM
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Default Re: NL25 KJ

i don't mind the call or raise prflop, you've got position, on the flop the reraise is good if you think he's c-betting, but once he calls your raise, calls your turn bet (which is fine imo) you've got to check behind on the river.
what calls the river that you beat, KT?
can you bet less for value? again not much calls you that you beat
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:38 AM
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i don't mind the call or raise prflop, you've got position, on the flop the reraise is good if you think he's c-betting, but once he calls your raise, calls your turn bet (which is fine imo) you've got to check behind on the river. what calls the river that you beat, KT?
can you bet less for value? again not much calls you that you beat

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SB is calling with TPGK, TPTP, 2pair, set. Hero has the nut flush!
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:04 AM
YanP YanP is offline
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Hero has the nut flush!

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and he does, disregard what i said, i'll look at it again, start to finish
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:04 AM
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Default Re: NL25 KJ

i like everything about how this was played. what if the river is 10c and SB leads for $8?
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: NL25 KJ

you can do both - raise or call PF.

On the flop I don't mind a raise, however if you smooth call this hand might play out differently.

On the turn since he called your flop raise I'm not sure you are good here at all. You will get weaker hands to fold most often here and will get c/r by stronger aces then you are forced to decide if you want to play for stacks at this point.
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:20 AM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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uhhh Jam is right, this hand postflop is [censored] horribly played. Preflop is OK but I like reraising some of the time too.

I don't know why you would think raising that flop is good, betting the turn is beyond me, are you trying to get exactly KQ to fold or something? I don't know wtf ur doing.

at least you got the river right....
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:30 AM
Scary_Tiger Scary_Tiger is offline
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The turn bet is really bad.
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Old 09-26-2007, 02:25 PM
YanP YanP is offline
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Default Re: NL25 KJ

on the flop you raise because you think you can steal a c-bet,
on the turn you bet to see if the Ace helped him (/if he is happy with his hand) and as a semi-bluff, now you've picked up the nut flush draw

On the river a push is ok, its representing a continued bluff through the hand and now a desperation bet to steal.

I'd prefer to vbet the river around 2/3 the pot, but i guess as you've got a psb behind then ship it
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Old 09-26-2007, 02:32 PM
ryang ryang is offline
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what calls the river that you beat, KT?

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lmao to the lenght of your response, not even knowing what we have [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]
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